Played Greystone today

I wish the greens were better too. I really like the lay out of the course.

Kind of figured the freeze played a part in it. Hopefully they come around for yall. The guys I played with today loved the layout

Both courses I play when I go to Waco had major issues from the freeze and snow this year. One is almost fully recovered the other is in similar condition as Greystone.

Im pretty sure you're the club pro out there, right?

Is the guy from florida currently there to start the process of getting them fixed?

All my friends are members, i play out there every weekend on Saturday or Sunday. Its a really fun track to play on.

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I really like the lay out of the course.

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No one ever has said that about greystone

It's an 18 hole golf course built on 13 holes worth of wetland. It's the worst layout in the Baton Rouge area for non-scratch golfers. The people there make it better though. Won't find nicer people that Chris, Cody and crew!

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It's the worst layout in the Baton Rouge area for non-scratch golfers.

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Only because they can’t overcome the desire to spray their driver on 14 holes every round. It’s a straight forward golf course. Everything is in front of you except for 4. There are some forced carries and forced layups, sure. But it makes you actually play with strategy which I get can be difficult for hackers.

It’s certainly not perfect. It can be frustrating for anyone to only have just 1 or 2 eagle chances an entire round. Nearly every tee shot favors a cut because left is hazard or water. And the greens are vanilla except for 13 (which was a mistake) and 18. But if you can play well there, your game can travel most places that don’t have much elevation involved. Hitting off uphill, side, and downhill lies is a whole different animal that no course in LA really prepares you for.

Totally agree!

Shots fired

The fact that I've played the course a bunch, and I can't tell which of two par 5s you consider the worst par 5 ever designed speaks volumes about the course and two of the par 5s.

I used to really hate the layout, but the more I play it, the more I get accustomed to it and it isn't so bad. Don't get me wrong, it is tight, they need to make some architectual changes on a couple holes, and I don't like not having 13-14 drivers, but the more you play it, the more it grows on you, I think, bc you figure out the lines.

Ell, 13 is only 90 off? What side was going to be the high side? Seems to make much more sense for the high side to be the back (I.e. Off 180).

OK, first things first — the word Redan. What does it mean?

The term Redan originates from a French word for part of a fortification. It is an arrow or V-shaped embankment toward the expected point of attack. Redans were common features in Malta in the 17th and 18th centuries and the Russians later used the design in defense of Napoleon and the French.

Umm…what does that have to do with golf?

Redan golf holes are well defended, like the military fortification for which they’re named. The green is offset close to a 45-degree angle moving from right to left and is guarded on the front left by a large, deep bunker. Usually seen in its original par-3 form, the Redan often plays as a mid-length to long par-3 to force longer irons and lower trajectory shots. They can range anywhere from 170 to 240 yards.

Got it. Are there any other defining characteristics of a Redan green?

The green slopes from the front right to back left (or vice versa on a reverse Redan). A common identifying feature is a large shoulder or hump on the front right of the green to help funnel balls back. While there are many different versions of the Redan, the traditional one has the front bunker and a second one situated behind the shoulder to catch all long shots. The common pin positions on Redans are in the middle or back of the green. It’s a genius design because it forces players to aim away from the hole in order to get it close.

Who came up with the idea?

The par-3 15th at charming North Berwick, in Scotland, is credited as the original Redan (though no single architect has been credited for designing the hole). While the club was formally founded in 1832, golf had been played on the property since the early parts of the 17th century. It wasn’t until 1868 that the club acquired the land where the famous 15th hole would eventually sit. The two architects who most commonly employed the Redan template were C.B. Macdonald and Seth Raynor. Most golden-age architects made use of the design at one point or another, and the Redan is making a return with throwback architects such as Tom Doak and Coore & Crenshaw.