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re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion

Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:12 pm to
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That’s where you are wrong. Abortion is a mortal sin and supporting those who have an abortion or the funding/assistance of one is wrong whether it’s public or in private. God doesn’t only see public sin - he sees every sin. Withholding the Eucharist from those in mortal sin was the right thing to do in the church on day one and it’s the right thing to do today. The church either has beliefs and convictions or it doesn’t.

Who the hell are YOU to say it’s ok to give the Eucharist to someone in mortal sin today just because that mortal sin happens to be a common mortal sin?

It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.


When did I say I disagree? I've said twice that it should be withheld, you should probably read my posts. This is a new paradigm that is tough to deal with, however, so the decision should not be made lightly.

One of the main tenets of the Church is that it requires free will to believe, free will to put our faith in God, free will to choose not to sin, and free will to confess those sins when we do. Part of all of that is free will to accept God, via the Eucharist, as well, and to place that burden on our own FREE CHOICE. As soon as man places authority over that, you create space for other problems. Sometimes, we have to let God work, even if that means doing something that looks strange.

Free will goes out the window when we decide to withhold the Eucharist as well. That is the issue we have to work through. Saying we should stop giving the President the Communion is not the end, and that;s the problem, it isn't one person you should be worried about, as the other post said - it's a majority of Democrat Catholics that are Pro-Choice. It can't end with one person. How the Church manages that is important.

How Catholics JUSTIFY that decision is important and should be made with more thought than a simple, "Withhold the Eucharist starting right now." There are ramifications, It should appropriately be defined and understood, etc. I HOPE that's all the Pope is looking for. I have my doubts, but I still have faith that God is guiding in the right way.
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