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re: Physicists Sabine Hosselfelder is super pissed about the phrase “follow the science”.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 5:02 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 4/24/21 at 5:02 pm to GumboPot
I agree with her overall point on follow the science especially given that I am in the field, but I do disagree with here using some idiotic metaphors and analogies to say why non-supporters reason their thinking.
Climate change data is some of the worst quality science you will ever see and that is the fundamental problems. As another poster said, some data is manipulated and others (the bulk of it) are entirely made up based on the assumptions of the “scientist” running/creating it or the model.
When you only have data for the last 100 years and can’t draw conclusions from it, you create model data. Problem is trying to extrapolate from 100 years of data put to thousands of years is entirely non-scientific. We are not supposed to extrapolate in science.
That leads to matters of opinion dictating what are called facts.
Worst part of this all is that we can see some of the issues that can arise, but instead of focusing on those, they go all doomsday and try to go to extremes. If you offer people alternatives that are cost equivalent or cheaper, they will do it. If you are asking them to pay way more for something based on invalidated claims or hypotheses, of course they are going to be resistant. You aren’t asking for small changes. Instead you are asking life altering changes at a significant cost with little guarantee it will even do anything.
That is politics and propaganda, not science.
Climate change data is some of the worst quality science you will ever see and that is the fundamental problems. As another poster said, some data is manipulated and others (the bulk of it) are entirely made up based on the assumptions of the “scientist” running/creating it or the model.
When you only have data for the last 100 years and can’t draw conclusions from it, you create model data. Problem is trying to extrapolate from 100 years of data put to thousands of years is entirely non-scientific. We are not supposed to extrapolate in science.
That leads to matters of opinion dictating what are called facts.
Worst part of this all is that we can see some of the issues that can arise, but instead of focusing on those, they go all doomsday and try to go to extremes. If you offer people alternatives that are cost equivalent or cheaper, they will do it. If you are asking them to pay way more for something based on invalidated claims or hypotheses, of course they are going to be resistant. You aren’t asking for small changes. Instead you are asking life altering changes at a significant cost with little guarantee it will even do anything.
That is politics and propaganda, not science.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 7:21 pm to Geauxgurt
When she went on the muh Trump rant she lost me
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