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Hatch's arm strength compared to LSU QBs in the past
Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:52 am
I cant remember a LSU QB having such a weak arm. Jesse Daigle? Herb Tyler was stronger. I can only remember back to Woodley and Ensminger.
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Posted on 9/1/08 at 9:54 am to Doc Feelgood
I don't remember a time when we needed to rely on the long ball so little. With our O-line and bevy of capable backs, our WR's that are pretty good at getting open and creating yards after the catch, we don't really need a Jamarcus type of arm strength.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:04 am to Spirit of Dunson
quote:When discussing arm strength, we aren't necessarily talking about throwing distance. Yes, we don't need a qb to throw it 80 yds, but we do need one who can throw the 15 yard out with zip. Hatch's arm is so weak, he can't hit that pass. His lack of zip on the ball is the problem that can lead to picks when he's trying to get balls in tight spots.
I don't remember a time when we needed to rely on the long ball so little
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:06 am to jlsutiger
quote:gotcha. I am just used to fans bitching about our lack of stretching the field.
Yes, we don't need a qb to throw it 80 yds, but we do need one who can throw the 15 yard out with zip
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:07 am to jlsutiger
Remember Danny Wuerfel? That weak arm SOB won a national championship and the Heisman.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:13 am to RikTikTIGER
Wuerfel was deadly accurate in college. plus he really excelled under Spurrier's offense. that and weurfel could throw 20-30yd type passes all day.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:15 am to lsu xman
I think Hatch's arm strength is very similar to Jamarcus Russell's......... when he was 10
This post was edited on 9/1/08 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:17 am to lsu xman
quote:So could Hatch. Remember, it was his first start.
Wuerfel was deadly accurate in college. plus he really excelled under Spurrier's offense. that and weurfel could throw 20-30yd type passes all day.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:20 am to lsu xman
Wuerfel also worked in an off that featured 5 WR sets and ALOT of "crossing routes" (aka pick plays) to get guys so wide open. He also knew that offense better than anyone but the ol' ball coach, he was throwing the passes before the receiver even came close to breaking off the route..
A strong arm keeps the def honest and opens the field side line to side line, or a DB will squat on the inside plays all day..what eventually happened to Dickson..
A strong arm keeps the def honest and opens the field side line to side line, or a DB will squat on the inside plays all day..what eventually happened to Dickson..
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:23 am to Doc Feelgood
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Herb Tyler was stronger
debatable...
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:25 am to jlsutiger
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Yes, we don't need a qb to throw it 80 yds, but we do need one who can throw the 15 yard out with zip.
I would guess half the QB's in college can't make this throw...
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:27 am to ForeLSU
quote:do you even WATCH college football outside of LSU?
I would guess half the QB's in college can't make this throw...
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:34 am to jlsutiger
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do you even WATCH college football outside of LSU?
yes, quite a bit. and if you look at the primary reason a lot of productive college qb's don't get drafted, or make it in the NFL, it's because they can't throw the 15-yard out. I would say Stafford would be the only one in the SEC right now (that I have seen to this point) who could deliver this pass on a consistent basis against a defense that wasn't playing off the ball....maybe JPW.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:38 am to ForeLSU
Herb had an incredibly strong arm for his size.
Hatch's isn't much worse than flynn.
Hatch's isn't much worse than flynn.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:39 am to Santa Clause
quote:OMG, yes he is. You are not giving Flynn enought credit. Flynn could make ALL of the throws a QB needs to make. Hatch cannot.
Hatch's isn't much worse than flynn.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:40 am to jlsutiger
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but we do need one who can throw the 15 yard out with zip. Hatch's arm is so weak, he can't hit that pass.
a bit overstated. your bullshite is getting old.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:43 am to Santa Clause
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Hatch's isn't much worse than flynn.
from what I have seen to this point hatch is about 70% of Flynn in arm strength.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:43 am to jlsutiger
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Flynn could make ALL of the throws a QB needs to make.
Posted on 9/1/08 at 10:45 am to RikTikTIGER
Are y'all really comparing Hatch's arm strength and velocity to Weurffel's?
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