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re: The world's biggest deserts could be the best places for harvesting solar energy, right?

Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:10 pm to
Serious question, any idea if a large city would actually have a worse effect with pavement, glass and building?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Serious question, any idea if a large city would actually have a worse effect with pavement, glass and building?


I know the raw data is there to do this analysis. The same irradiance datasets used for Solar production modeling are the same TMY thats used for building HVAC sizing, etc. you could also use the newer GOES sat data to back into something as well.

The answer is almost certainly that they have an impact but I’m just not sure how much.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:31 pm to
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Serious question, any idea if a large city would actually have a worse effect with pavement, glass and building?




Well, urban heat islands are a real thing. A lot of bad data regarding exaggerated AGW claims comes from this comparison of apples to plutonium (hand-recorded Mercury thermometer readings in the 1880s compared to computerized satellite laser readings in the late 20th/early 21st Century), coupled with a significant increase in thermal mass of various urban areas, expanded use of climate control, etc., over that period of time.

Many of those with a relatively extreme environmental leaning often ignore second/third order effects in their "anything but fossil or nuclear" stance. We need fossil fuels and nuclear fission for industrial production of power until the fossils are gone OR we perfect fusion power.

All solar and wind do is make white liberals feel better about electricity. They're all built/maintained/serviced/replaced/bolstered by petroleum products and a petroleum/coal/nuclear electrical infrastructure - and will be for the foreseeable future.
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