Here is another fact you don’t understand.

The top tax bracket in those Scandinavian countries starts much lower. The top tax bracket of 45-55% taxes starts at the equivalent of 50,000 salary in US dollars.

And to remind you, in the US, the bottom 50% of earners contribute to 3% of tax revenues.

So you see, the reason you don’t have socialized medicine and education like Norway is because poor people aren’t paying as much in taxes as they are in Norway.

I would actually welcome a tax bracket like Norway. I would get crushed but I think it would be a good lesson for a lot of people in this country that aren’t paying a lot of taxes but want a bunch of free stuff. To see them start paying 30-40% taxes, maybe they would start voting different.

So people in the 50k to 100k bracket paying 8% in the US now would be paying 45% in Denmark.

You still think you aren’t getting much for healthcare?

It would be hilarious to watch the melts when they got their first paycheck. I bet most would never vote democrat again.

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Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:10 pm to WaWaWeeWa

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It would be hilarious to watch the melts when they got their first paycheck. I bet most would never vote democrat again.

You seem like a very intelligent person. But, your expectation is flawed and I’ll tell you why.

The extreme vast majority of Democrats (and many Republicans do this, too) don’t vote for Democrats because they believe in their policies and political ideals.

They vote Democrat because it’s what they’ve always done, it’s what Daddy did, and it’s what they think is expected of them because of identity politics.

Tribalism. They vote for their tribe and they adopt the policies of their tribe (just like the person who started this thread) because that’s the position of the tribe and because the tribe told them to do so.

If those poor people a d minorities who vote Democrat suddenly had to start paying a 45% tax rate, they’d blame it on the opposing party because their tribe would tell them it is the opposing party’s fault. And they’d continue to vote Democrat.

Every. Single. Time.

Republicans do the same thing. We’ll virtue signal about small government and fiscal responsibility and cry and moan when the opposing party adds to the national debt and doesn’t fix deficit spending.

But, we’ll turn around and vote for the same politicians who do it in the Republican Party because they’re from our tribe (“At least they’re not Democrats,”). We’ll even call them conservatives and justify their nonconservative policies.

Donald Trump did more for black Americans than any President in recent history. They falsely decried him as a “white supremacist,” and voted for a man whose legislation put more of them in prison than any legislation since slavery. They don’t have any actual evidence of Trump being a white supremacist, but they were told he is by their tribe. No need to think critically. And they believed and voted accordingly. For their tribe.

Republicans cried and moaned and bitched about deficits, spending, the debt, the 2nd Amendment, and other conservative issues and took a massive shite on the only 2 or 3 actual conservatives in the Republican Primary in 2016 and got bigger spending and weapons bans..... because only 1 candidate in their estimation (and they were probably right, but that’s beside the point) could beat the candidate who wasn’t from their tribe.

Tribalism. Only a very, very, VERY small portion of the electorate is informed and principled and vote according to those principles and political policy. The rest will vote to keep their tribe in power.

And that, ultimately, has been and will be the ruination of our country. It is THE root of why people like the OP think socialism is a good idea.

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