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re: Anybody still think Finley is a better QB than Brennan?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:29 am to Dude what
Posted on 11/1/20 at 11:29 am to Dude what
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OHHHHHH ok. So when Brennan faces the same problems it doesn’t matter, because all I heard was how a QB “makes the oline better”, “he throws a more catchable ball”. Apparently when Myles faces the same thing and puts up huge numbers it’s irrelevant.
At what point has Brennan faced "the same problems"? Receivers have been running open all season until yesterday. In the first game against MSU, when there was pressure, Brennan didn't handle it well at all. After that game, he improved. Finley faced FAR more pressure than Brennan has in any of his three starts, and obviously it didn't go well. When there were open receivers early in the game, he was hitting them. But after he made his couple of mistakes that put the team in a hole, everyone appeared to just quit around him. I never saw this team quit in any of Brennan's games.
And here's what you're missing while you're busy ranting about an imaginary group of people who supposedly wanted Brennan benched (which is not what the majority of people were saying): It's not about trying to prove that Brennan wasn't good. After the first game, he was outstanding. And I never said Finley's ability to run changed anything. I don't think he's that good of a runner, and I hated the draw plays. It was that Finley showed an incredible ability to read the defense quickly and get the ball out immediately against USC. It was incredible because the guy was literally stepping into a college game for the first time. That told me and a lot of others that he's got a great natural ability. It's taken Brennan a long time to develop. But he has, and that's great. I simply think Finley has a higher upside.
I never called for Brennan to be benched. He didn't do anything to lose his job. And based on having paid his dues, I fully expected and supported that he would likely regain his starting job, when healthy, no matter what Finley did. Meat heads took that and ran with this narrative: "You guys think he's the messiah after one game. You turned on Brennan as soon as he got hurt. Wah, wah, wah"... It was typical tigerdroppings strawman, mischaracterization tactics to try to win a point.
If Brennan could improve from his first taste of adversity, why can't Finley? Why do we have to bury Finley? Myles has played well, but hasn't faced anything like yesterday. It's incredibly ignorant to try to compare the two QB's based on that. I'm good with either guy. I said that all week. My only issue was with those who just poo-pooed Finley all week because "it's just one game", and now after ONE off game, you hypocrites turn right back around and make your own sweeping judgments.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:07 pm to Metaloctopus
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Finley faced FAR more pressure than Brennan has in any of his three starts
We gave up 7 sacks against Mississippi State. We had unblocked guys coming through the A-gap on more than one occasion in that game.
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Receivers have been running open all season until yesterday.
There were open receivers yesterday.
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When there were open receivers early in the game, he was hitting them.
Two of the first three attempts were thrown behind an open Terrace Marshall.
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And here's what you're missing while you're busy ranting about an imaginary group of people who supposedly wanted Brennan benched
They weren’t imaginary, and I think you know that based on your next comment:
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(which is not what the majority of people were saying)
You’re right. The majority were pushing back against the vocal minority who thought Brennan should be benched.
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I never called for Brennan to be benched. He didn't do anything to lose his job. And based on having paid his dues, I fully expected and supported that he would likely regain his starting job, when healthy, no matter what Finley did. Meat heads took that and ran with this narrative: "You guys think he's the messiah after one game. You turned on Brennan as soon as he got hurt. Wah, wah, wah"... It was typical tigerdroppings strawman, mischaracterization tactics to try to win a point.
This is bullshite. Those arguments didn’t stem from the type of reasonable arguments you’re suggesting. The fact that you personally did not suggest Brennan should be benched doesn’t negate the fact that many DID. If you didn’t see those posts, you weren’t paying attention. Do I really need to start quoting them?
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Everyone knows Brennan doesn’t have “it”. He’s soft with mediocre talent, and that’s how LSU had played until yesterday.
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I mean, TJ is more gifted physically, he’s more mobile, has a bigger arm and has the size to a hit!
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Sorry he has had 4 years to learn and a true freshman came in and made quicker decisions than he did. Thats not saying much about Brennan
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He is more likely to grad transfer out than get drafted at this point.
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Myles, with the “full playbook” managed a whopping 27 points in his first start. And an L
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 7:41 pm to Metaloctopus
If my first post sounded like I’m accusing you when I meant it more generally, that’s my fault.
He was sacked twice against Missouri and pressured 16 times. That is about 1/3 of every drop back he has pressured and we ran for 2.5 yards per carry. He was 29/48 (60%) 430 yds 4 TD’s and no turnovers. Sounds like a pretty similar day for the oline tbh.
Someone else addressed a couple bad throws. He missed open guys especially after the INT. So many people had assured me he had incredible “poise” and “confidence”. I just wanted everyone to have reasonable expectations.
Really? You are trying to suggest that we were like children crying about Brennan being benched? I would argue his performance yesterday speaks volumes to our argument.
I’m not trying to rag on Finley, more so the people screaming his name like they had just seen Jesus. If we all agree Brennan is the guy then in no way is it ignorant to compare Brennan and Finley.
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Brennan faced "the same problems
He was sacked twice against Missouri and pressured 16 times. That is about 1/3 of every drop back he has pressured and we ran for 2.5 yards per carry. He was 29/48 (60%) 430 yds 4 TD’s and no turnovers. Sounds like a pretty similar day for the oline tbh.
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open receivers early in the game, he was hitting them
Someone else addressed a couple bad throws. He missed open guys especially after the INT. So many people had assured me he had incredible “poise” and “confidence”. I just wanted everyone to have reasonable expectations.
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Meat heads took that and ran with this narrative: "You guys think he's the messiah after one game. You turned on Brennan as soon as he got hurt. Wah, wah, wah"... It was typical tigerdroppings strawman, mischaracterization tactics to try to win a point
Really? You are trying to suggest that we were like children crying about Brennan being benched? I would argue his performance yesterday speaks volumes to our argument.
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If Brennan could improve from his first taste of adversity, why can't Finley? Why do we have to bury Finley? Myles has played well, but hasn't faced anything like yesterday. It's incredibly ignorant to try to compare the two QB's based on that.
I’m not trying to rag on Finley, more so the people screaming his name like they had just seen Jesus. If we all agree Brennan is the guy then in no way is it ignorant to compare Brennan and Finley.
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