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re: Update: NO murder charges in Breonna Taylor death.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:17 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:17 pm to Pettifogger
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satisfy the elements of a murder count.
Again, given what we know, I was never arguing for a murder charge.
I can't speak for everybody else, but that has never been my issue here.
But the idea that it's just "ho hum, our bad" when an unarmed woman gets shot to death in her own house doesn't really make sense to me either.
Belle and SFP have said it best, so I'll defer to their posts, but there are serious problems that go beyond the scope of this one incident. I mean these cops rolled in like fricking seal team 6 only to:
- find nothing illegal with the super special night-time raid warrant that they allegedly lied to obtain
- kill a bystander
- land bullets in at least THREE different apartments
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:19 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:26 pm to NawlinsTiger9
My issues with how this has all played out (as someone who currently lives in Louisville):
- LMPD was found negligent enough in a civil court to end up with a massive settlement that the taxpayers here will have to pay the Taylor family. While I appreciate the conditions of the settlement requesting some significant changes in the department, this shouldn't be the taxpayer's burden to bear. The largest settlements this city has had has been due to LMPD negligence (the previous one for a investigator who falsified and ignored evidence to keep an innocent man in prison).
- There has been a systematic failure from the Mayor down to LMPD in handling this issue. They were shady in how the reports were written (they were virtually blank when released months later), shady in how they handled information released to the public, shady in lying about the body cam situation. There's a lot of people who should be roasted over this.
- The FOP has far too much power at this point and I blame the city as much as the FOP for allowing it to happen.
- Hankinson should've never been in that raid because he should've been shite canned long before that given what we've publicly seen of his file.
- No knock warrants should be banned statewide (they're working on that). There have been multiple incidents of LMPD mishandling them.
- I have real, real issues with cops not getting punished for lying to obtain a warrant.
- I sincerely question the competency of LMPD, not just in this case, but in others that are well-documented at this point. Hopefully this gets them the needed revamp, but it's doubtful as Metro Council just took $1 million from the Louisville Free Public Library budget to put in the LMPD budget with no stipulations.
- LMPD was found negligent enough in a civil court to end up with a massive settlement that the taxpayers here will have to pay the Taylor family. While I appreciate the conditions of the settlement requesting some significant changes in the department, this shouldn't be the taxpayer's burden to bear. The largest settlements this city has had has been due to LMPD negligence (the previous one for a investigator who falsified and ignored evidence to keep an innocent man in prison).
- There has been a systematic failure from the Mayor down to LMPD in handling this issue. They were shady in how the reports were written (they were virtually blank when released months later), shady in how they handled information released to the public, shady in lying about the body cam situation. There's a lot of people who should be roasted over this.
- The FOP has far too much power at this point and I blame the city as much as the FOP for allowing it to happen.
- Hankinson should've never been in that raid because he should've been shite canned long before that given what we've publicly seen of his file.
- No knock warrants should be banned statewide (they're working on that). There have been multiple incidents of LMPD mishandling them.
- I have real, real issues with cops not getting punished for lying to obtain a warrant.
- I sincerely question the competency of LMPD, not just in this case, but in others that are well-documented at this point. Hopefully this gets them the needed revamp, but it's doubtful as Metro Council just took $1 million from the Louisville Free Public Library budget to put in the LMPD budget with no stipulations.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:29 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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- land bullets in at least THREE different apartments
very lucky there wasn't anyone else killed... would love to see how this scenario would be defended here if, say, the next door neighbor, who had NOTHING to do with any of this, other than just being next door, would have been shot asleep in bed... food for thought
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:30 pm to NawlinsTiger9
The militarization of police, police tactics and decisions on warrants are issues largely attributable to "us". We put cops out there to take these actions on our behalf. I find that highly distinguishable from choking out a suspect or shooting an unarmed guy in the back. In contrast, it's a much more tenuous argument to suggest that the Walter Scott shooting, for example, is "on us" (citizens).
I'm not saying there are no individual actions here worthy of prosecution (I don't know). But I've seen no coherent legal arguments relating to the arrest of the officers for charges pertaining to Taylor's death.
I'm not saying there are no individual actions here worthy of prosecution (I don't know). But I've seen no coherent legal arguments relating to the arrest of the officers for charges pertaining to Taylor's death.
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