re: Get ready for shite to go down with Trader Joe shooting.

It’s a combo subjective / objective standard.

1) were you personally in fear of your life, the life of another or of either of you receiving heat bodily harm; and

2) Would the reasonable person have the same fear under the same circumstances.


The wiffle ball bat gets a “no” on the second part, and as a result it’s not a legitimate defense to the use of force.