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re: Get ready for shite to go down with Trader Joe shooting.

Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:30 pm to
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If you shoot a kid with a wiffle ball bat because you feel threatened, the jury would determine if a reasonable person would consider a child wielding a wiffle ball bat to be capable of great bodily harm.

Right. It doesn’t matter how scared/threatened you felt; it matters whether or not you should have felt scared/threatened.

You your actual fear/threat assessment of a kid with a whiffle ball bat is immaterial.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5842 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 3:51 pm to
It’s a combo subjective / objective standard.

1) were you personally in fear of your life, the life of another or of either of you receiving heat bodily harm; and

2) Would the reasonable person have the same fear under the same circumstances.


The wiffle ball bat gets a “no” on the second part, and as a result it’s not a legitimate defense to the use of force.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/23/20 at 4:35 pm to
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your actual fear/threat assessment of a kid with a whiffle ball bat is immaterial.


What if its being brandished by Jason Bourne?
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