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re: Payroll Tax Should Be Eliminated Permanetly

Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139903 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:15 pm to
I just teach SPED and pay my taxes.

I’m glad you’re such a baller and staple of community to not be a small business.
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18633 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:16 pm to
Then shut up.
Dolt.
Again you sound like a fricking special ed Yourself
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 8:17 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9187 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
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As an American it is exactly your job. You pay taxes doofus.


frick you assho.

I pay taxes when I have to take a check.

You're the doofus and doing it wrong.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139903 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
What’s wrong your feelings hurt because you can’t figure out what an Americans job is? Read history.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
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So what are the other possibilities? Charge employees double? What is the plan?



Take back the trillions of tax payer dollars that bought houses in places like Northern Virginia

That is our money

Lots of seriously negative net taxpayers in really nice houses we bought them
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139903 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:18 pm to
Nah kid I’m not on here living a lie like you. It’s amazing how y’all claim to be what you aren’t.

But this is same board that hates Freemasonry yet defends the exact thing Freemasons wrote to start the country. It’s amazing g
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 8:20 pm
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18633 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:19 pm to
Gawd your a fricking idiot.
And a teacher to boot.
I worked my 40years. Paid my share. frick off dumbshit
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32521 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:19 pm to
Can you do us a quick pro forma for maybe the next 20 years on such of a decision?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29534 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:26 pm to
Many do put give a shite. They want to spend it but don’t want to pay for it. Cut defense. No we need , we need more of it, gotta keep that up. Cut SS? No, we’ve paid into it all this time and the government pinky promised! I deserve it, we can’t cut it or change the retirement age or do means testing or any sort of reform! Cut Medicare? No think of granny!

Ok...well it has to be paid for. Which means...taxes. We already spend more than we pay but most don’t care, they want all of the above but just want their kids to pay for it.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1943 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:26 pm to
What you don’t understand is your employer pays a match on your SS and Med. So if you have $1000 withheld from your check annually in SS and Med the employer redeems that $1000 on your behalf to the IRS, and then pays a Tax (Added expense) of $1000 for a total redemption of $2000.00. That’s just you as well for your other teachers there could be 50 of them with comparable salaries so the employer redeems $50,000 to IRS and then pays an additional $50,000 for a tax, so that’s a total of $100,000.00. I think the employer could give you a fat pay raise if they didn’t have to pay a tax. Or you could save the money on your own, and not worry about uncle same giving it to you after 62 or whatever the age is. Hell you might not even live to 62 before you see those payments!
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1943 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:29 pm to
You must not own a business either.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9187 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:29 pm to
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Nah kid


I'm 60 punk

quote:

living a lie like you


The American dream this best I know how.

quote:

It’s amazing how y’all claim to be what you aren’t.



So you know me?

quote:

But this is same board that hates Freemasonry yet defends the exact thing Freemasons wrote to start the country. It’s amazing g



It's called freedom, their very perpose.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139903 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:31 pm to
No I do understand that there’s an employer match. It’s some not understanding that SS Medicaid/Medicare is essential.

So when you teach a kid whose parent shot them in head and (got placed in state custody (there’s more than 1 of these I’ve had) cut that tax funding is a reason alone to not eliminate and then you have majority of mental health paid by these funds in public schools. I’m not talking about the fake ADHD. cases that pediatricians are diagnosing to line their pockets with
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 8:34 pm
Posted by ELT
Member since Nov 2012
208 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:36 pm to
It’s double taxation. So the small business owners pay income taxes on their own income, payroll tax, and tax on the gross income of the company Such is most likely quarterly and based off previous earnings which they better match because Uncle Sam gets his money first. It’s a ridiculous tax.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29534 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:36 pm to
It doesn’t matter the employer matches, that amount has to be paid either way. If we did away with the match and put it 100% on the employees their percent would have to go up so you’d likely have to raise their wages by that amount to compensate. At the end of the day that amount gets paid. So doing away with the match wouldn’t do you any good because instead of paying the government what you’ve been paying you’d pay the employee who would then in turn pay the government.

Or we can just keep cutting because it’s not “fair”, not cut spending at all, and make our kids and grandkids pay for it because we are selfish assholes.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51147 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:38 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32521 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:38 pm to
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Many do put give a shite. They want to spend it but don’t want to pay for it. Cut defense. No we need , we need more of it, gotta keep that up. Cut SS? No, we’ve paid into it all this time and the government pinky promised! I deserve it, we can’t cut it or change the retirement age or do means testing or any sort of reform! Cut Medicare? No think of granny!

Ok...well it has to be paid for. Which means...taxes. We already spend more than we pay but most don’t care, they want all of the above but just want their kids to pay for it.
That's an opinion. Pro forma is more about numbers and accounting.Roll it out.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29534 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:39 pm to
I’ve done proformas before and no I’m not about to roll it out. What I said above is entirely accurate about America and that includes “small government fiscally responsible conservatives”
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32521 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:41 pm to
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You must not own a business either.


Actually I do, but they are all independent contractors and it's an LLC.
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