re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...

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understand why the enthusiasm for Obama was sky high. And I understand why it was so low for Hillary...not at the time but in hindsight.

I don't see enthusiasm for Biden. Sure people may say they are going to vote against Trump but voting against someone historically usually doesn't work out very well. Biden needs people to vote for him. I don't see it. People are just not enthusiastic about Biden. You are going to have 10-20% of these people that will just be apathetic and won't take the time out of the day to go to the polls.

At least Trump has an enthusiastic loyal base. That's a good start.

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Look your right about enthusiasm for Obama but 293k voters that's a frick ton and that can obviously sway an election.

Trump definitely has the enthusiasm edge over Biden however he has the same enthusiasm gap inpeople that are anti trump. Just 5% of that 293k that sat out vote anti trump and Michigan is Blue again.

You're analysis of PA was spot on because it was the only state of the 3 that didn't have a slide in vote totals from 2012 to 2016. Compared to Michigan and Wisconsin.