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re: Here’s some evidence that certain reporters want more testing so that things look worse

Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11487 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:08 am to
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Right, because NY did nothing while the virus silently spread in February and March and thus experienced terrible outcomes early in the pandemic and then fought our way back in control and are now doing relatively well, it is really important that rest of the country learn nothing from that experience and make the same mistakes again and again.

What exactly should be learned from the N.Y. experience? No one knows the extent of the nursing home clusterf*ck. They purposely didn’t track all deaths related to long term care facilities.

For example, the data isn’t consistent nor complete across the country, but we know 45% of deaths are from residents of such facilities. However, NY’s data only claims 10% of deaths despite their facilities being hit exceptionally hard.

The NY state government and Cuomo just released a huge report trying to cover their asses. The report is full of manipulated and selective data. I’m sure it’s no coincidence that they were able to massage a lot of data to fit their narrative because they don’t have huge pieces of it because they purposely didn’t collect it.

Someone can claim their numbers are down because of herd immunity. You can claim they are down because of mask and social distancing policies. I can cite their cases and deaths skyrocketed when Cuomo started sending positive patients back to nursing homes in late March. Cases and deaths have dropped dramatically since he revered his policy in late May.

Who knows because we don’t have full and accurate information.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:37 am to
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What exactly should be learned from the N.Y. experience?


Well you just listed two things, so those. Beyond that I've listed several times the things I think we should be doing. Having learned from NY's tardiness and mishaps and the successful efforts to climb out of the hole, but more importantly the success of other countries.

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Someone can claim their numbers are down because of herd immunity.

People can claim anything I suppose. The best information we have suggests that herd immunity has not taken hold broadly across NY.

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Cases and deaths have dropped dramatically since he revered his policy in late May.



The problem with saying it's all about the nursing homes is that hospitals who didn't see many transfers from in nursing homes during the crisis are nevertheless seeing dramatically fewer COVID patients right now. Our main campus has 3 COVID patients in the house today. At our peak we had 100 times that many- all through the ED or transfers from other hospitals. There is just less disease out there right now. This is a good thing. Seems like we should learn something from that.

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