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re: How is this different from WACO?
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:53 pm to Olric
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:53 pm to Olric
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Weird that no one who lived on the facility who survived to talk about it says any children were harmed but you take the murderer's word for it.
Kiri Jewell testified to it before Congress when she was 14, dummy
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:03 pm to TigerCruise
VIDEO: David Koresh and Branch Davidian home movies
Investigations by the State of Texas into child abuse were inconclusive and Koresh was never charged by the state on those charges. The Branch Davidians did practice plural marriage and Koresh apparently had his pick of wives.
Yet listen to the FBI agent at about 1:05 in the video above rationalize the Waco raid. The agent indicates the government was justified in exterminating 82 people — over 20 children and two pregnant women — because Koresh was guilty of polygamy.
If these women and children were indeed victims of sexual abuse, it seems incinerating those alleged victims is a peculiar way to save them from their alleged assailants. Local LEO officials claimed that Koresh could have been arrested anytime on his frequent solo visits into town for supplies.
And who appointed the ATF to serve as the judge, jury and executioner of such crimes? Indeed, were the claims of sex-abuse created as a pretext for a warrant based on the suspicion that the Davidians were hoarding firearms on their ranch?
The physical evidence at the Davidian ranch was reduced to ashes by the raid and the government plowed over the ground one week after the siege ended in flames — how convenient! And the survivors facing murder and conspiracy to commit murder charges were acquitted of the most serious government charges and instead convicted on lessor weapons charges.
11 Waco Cultists Are Acquitted of Murder Charges : Trail Outcome indicates jurors placed most blame on the government. Seven Branch Davidians are convicted on lesser charges....
Investigations by the State of Texas into child abuse were inconclusive and Koresh was never charged by the state on those charges. The Branch Davidians did practice plural marriage and Koresh apparently had his pick of wives.
Yet listen to the FBI agent at about 1:05 in the video above rationalize the Waco raid. The agent indicates the government was justified in exterminating 82 people — over 20 children and two pregnant women — because Koresh was guilty of polygamy.
If these women and children were indeed victims of sexual abuse, it seems incinerating those alleged victims is a peculiar way to save them from their alleged assailants. Local LEO officials claimed that Koresh could have been arrested anytime on his frequent solo visits into town for supplies.
And who appointed the ATF to serve as the judge, jury and executioner of such crimes? Indeed, were the claims of sex-abuse created as a pretext for a warrant based on the suspicion that the Davidians were hoarding firearms on their ranch?
The physical evidence at the Davidian ranch was reduced to ashes by the raid and the government plowed over the ground one week after the siege ended in flames — how convenient! And the survivors facing murder and conspiracy to commit murder charges were acquitted of the most serious government charges and instead convicted on lessor weapons charges.
11 Waco Cultists Are Acquitted of Murder Charges : Trail Outcome indicates jurors placed most blame on the government. Seven Branch Davidians are convicted on lesser charges....
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HOUSTON — Dealing a sharp blow to the government, jurors on Saturday acquitted all 11 members of the Branch Davidian cult accused of murder and murder-conspiracy in the deaths of four federal agents who stormed their compound near Waco, Tex., a year ago.
Most of the defendants were convicted of lesser charges. Five were convicted of aiding and abetting voluntary manslaughter in the deaths of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents. Those five and two others were also found guilty of weapons possession charges. Four cult members were cleared of all charges.
The murder and murder-conspiracy charges would have carried a maximum punishment of life in prison. Conviction on the voluntary manslaughter charges could bring sentences of up to 10 years. No date was set for sentencing.
Although most of the defendants were convicted of some offenses, the acquittals on the most serious charges indicated that jurors believed the ATF--and not cult members, whose lawyers had argued they acted only in self-defense--was largely responsible for the violence...
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:05 pm to Choctaw
wow. a girl that testifies before Congress about how she was raped when she was 10, along with other girls, gets downvoted.
Poli Board has reached a new low
Poli Board has reached a new low
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:07 pm to vol-boy
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I haven’t heard there are any federal laws being broken in CHAZ.
If they’re really shaking down business owners with threats of force, that’s racketeering.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:24 pm to TigerCruise
Waco people actually owned their land. They didn’t strong arm it from their city with guns
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:53 pm to Choctaw
Janet Reno and the dems burned babies alive at Waco.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:56 pm to LuckyTiger
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Pretty sure there is privately held property in CHAZ.
Sure, just not held by the people who are occupying the property.
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:59 pm to Choctaw
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well they're not raping kids that i know of. so there's one
Of the 77 people that burned to death, 25 were children.
You have to burn the children to save the children as it turned out by the government authority.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:04 am to TigerCruise
The inhabitants are worse than Waco
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:04 am to westide
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Janet Reno and the dems burned babies alive at Waco.
not according to the Waco firefighters and a Congressional investigation.
but keep defending a guy that told 10 year old girls that they had to have sex with him to get to heaven
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:05 am to TigerCruise
Paging Janet reno, is not any different and will prol end the same way, just kidding, the kids will come out hands up when they're hungry.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:07 am to LuckyTiger
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Op is asking how that differs from the cult in Seattle that has declared themselves autonomous, armed themselves, are hostile to police, set up a commune in the middle of the city with their own beliefs and laws, and are committing sex crimes.
One actually owned their own land instead of squatting on it. Pretty bid deal.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:13 am to Choctaw
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not according to the Waco firefighters and a Congressional investigation.
There was local news footage that showed armored vehicles punching holes into the compound and then injecting flaming nozzles into the building setting everything to blaze.
No matter what the cult leader was guilty of, the members were murdered.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:30 am to Mrwhodat
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There was local news footage that showed armored vehicles punching holes into the compound and then injecting flaming nozzles into the building setting everything to blaze.
yeah...i'd have to see this footage because of all the stuff i've read on the Waco siege i've never heard this
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:37 am to Dawgfanman
quote:the people of Seattle
Who owns the streets?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:39 am to Mrwhodat
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and then injecting flaming nozzles
Didn’t happen. Tear gas, yes.
Mobile flame throwers? Lol, no.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:46 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Didn’t happen. Tear gas, yes.
Mobile flame throwers? Lol, no.
It was flares dropped as part of a training exercise.
Local TV station used a telescopic lens on a camera from the press perimeter location.
Footage was aired and then confiscated.
Tear gas does not match the confiscated footage.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:18 am to Mrwhodat
So was it flares dropped or
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punching holes into the compound and then injecting flaming nozzles into the building
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:56 pm to Choctaw
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Congressional investigation.
So Congress ruled in favor of the goon squads that serve as the enforcing arm of the Feral Government of the United States? Shocking.
You serious Clark?
...but keep defending jackbooted government thugs that would incinerate women and children alive in order to “save” them.
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