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re: Shams: Pels one of teams interested in Beal

Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:05 pm to
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You are grossly undervaluing him if you think he comes here and plays third fiddle in the hierarchy.

he may be 4th

Zion is clearly better, Ingram is likely better, and then you have Ball/Jrue. Beal is clearly better than Ball but Ball runs the team as the point and seems to have an in with Zion. Jrue is in the same tier as Beal and has been the leader of this team for some time.

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He would be the alpha scorer for the next few seasons

Ingram and Zion are the alpha and beta

go look at Ingram's 3rd years v. Beal's 3rd. hell look at his 3rd year v. ANY year of Beal's other than 20

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Beal would destroy defenses with Zion and Ingram with their gravity pulling defenders away from him

the problem is, unless there has been something fricky going on, he hasn't been a good enough 3 point shooter to pay #1 guy money for him to just shoot 3s. he is EXTREMELY over-valued and will cost WAY too much
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Zion is clearly better, Ingram is likely better, and then you have Ball/Jrue. Beal is clearly better than Ball but Ball runs the team as the point and seems to have an in with Zion. Jrue is in the same tier as Beal and has been the leader of this team for some time.



We aren't getting Beal, and still having Ball and Jrue. One of them has to go, and i've already mentioned why Washington wouldn't be interested in Jrue. The only teams that would are teams that want to win a championship now.

Zion doesn't need to be given the ball to score. He scores no matter what he does. He and Jrue have no problem conceding to Ingram and Beal. While i obviously want Zion to be a focal point of the offense, he could come down the court on 10 possessions and not have anyone pass him the ball and still play a big part in every bucket we make.
One of the biggest jumps in Beals game this year was scoring. He went from scoring 23ppg in '17 and '18, to 30ppg in '20, and he only went from taking 8.3FGA to 10.4FGA. That's an impressive jump by only taking 2 more shots. What he did was nearly double his FTA, going from 4.4 to 8 per game. That is a stat i love to see, and why i would love to have him. Ingram and Jrue already get to the line at a great rate, and Zion is going to be in a different world when it comes to that. When you have 4 guys on the court with the ability to take their man off the dribble and get to the paint and draw fouls, you're going to win a lot of games. As long as we are moving the ball and not playing 1 on 1 everywhere, the lack of 3 point shooting won't matter that much when you have guys that are that elite at getting to the rim.

Ingram and Beal would be two great scoring options that we can stagger minutes with as best we can, always having an elite scorer on the floor. That is the biggest appeal to me right there, along with his ability to get to the line.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:13 pm to
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he may be 4th

Zion is clearly better, Ingram is likely better, and then you have Ball/Jrue. Beal is clearly better than Ball but Ball runs the team as the point and seems to have an in with Zion. Jrue is in the same tier as Beal and has been the leader of this team for some time.



LOL

At this point, the only conclusion I can draw is you don’t even watch basketball outside the Pels, so this has been a waste of time.

Beal the offensive 4th option in year one? The second best scorer in the league? Behind a hypothetical situation we keep every big player? Ragging on a guys shooting who like Harden gets blanket defensive coverage and double teams but shoots the three more efficiently than him today and at that age. GTFO lol
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