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re: St John’s Church - DC

Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:30 am to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
76101 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:30 am to
Taking politics out of this which I know can be difficult in 2020. Why would the bishop be so appalled by this? Can someone provide an objective and unbiased opinion on this?
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1486 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:50 am to
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Taking politics out of this which I know can be difficult in 2020. Why would the bishop be so appalled by this? Can someone provide an objective and unbiased opinion on this?

Because Episcopals around here are extremely liberal, usually theologically but seemingly always culturally.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7960 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 2:15 am to
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“I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop."

"Trump’s message is at odds with the values of love and tolerance espoused by the church," Budde said, before describing the president’s visit as an opportunity to use the church, and a Bible, as a “backdrop”. “Let me be clear, the President just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese, without permission, as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus,”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/02/outrageous-christian-leaders-reject-trump-use-of-church-as-prop-during-george-floyd-protests?CMP=share_btn_tw
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:51 am to
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Why would the bishop be so appalled by this?


I’ve seen some dumb questions here, but this ones a doozy.

Gee, I wonder why a bishop of a diocese would be upset that staff at one of her churches got tear gassed to clear them off the church grounds so someone could take some pictures.
Posted by PatrickChewing
Member since Dec 2010
325 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 8:18 am to
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Taking politics out of this which I know can be difficult in 2020. Why would the bishop be so appalled by this? Can someone provide an objective and unbiased opinion on this?


A lot of people aren’t happy with how the feds pushed back the protesters to allow the president to have a photo op in front of the church. The city had a 7pm curfew and had made it known that it would be strictly enforced. City and Feds were in the same page to let the protesting go till 7 then start breaking it up. At 630 the feds and national guard in Lafayette park went over the barriers to push everyone off of H st. The footage of them clearing the street isn’t great. You see a news cameraman take a pretty good shot from a riot shield and his female reporter gets a nightstick to the back of the head. Before the president walked out to the church no one really understood why the police got so aggressive with the protesters because there wasn’t any rioting at the time and 2 blocks behind them were hundreds of city police.
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