re: I’ve been thinking about Bush’s bullhorn speech from ground zero.

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Say what you want about W, but that moment was an all-timer. I watched it live and still get goosebumps watching it now.

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so if he had said "i hear you and the people that knocked down these buildings are going to hear from all of us soon!.....we're going to fight a war with our hands tied behind our back, to win hearts and minds, we'll pump billions of dollars into the country, they'll still hate us and in 20 years who ever is president will pull us out with our tail between our legs!"

because that was the plan, bush even articulated as much, "this war will out last my presidency".

a good president would have gone curtis leMay on their arse and they would have handed over bin laden and this thing would have been over 20 years ago.