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re: 7,890 deaths in NYC as of this morning. How many w/o underlying conditions?

Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:43 pm to
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100% of the 7,890 are confirmed COVID deaths, with an additional 4309 probable COVID deaths, and an additional 3,500+ excess deaths above normal deaths expectations that aren’t included.


Why would you add excess deaths? Seems to me you're double-counting COVID deaths by doing that.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:46 pm to
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Why would you add excess deaths? Seems to me you're double-counting COVID deaths by doing that.


Because the excess deaths are not counted as COVID, have no cause cited, but occurred parallel to NYC's peak deaths.

Are all 3500+ COVID deaths? No

Are a substantial portion? Yes, probably.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Why would you add excess deaths? Seems to me you're double-counting COVID deaths by doing that.
I’m not adding them; I’m just noting that even excluding the confirmed and probable deaths, there were still more deaths per day than expected (~147), a significant 68% increase.
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