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re: Video: Fouci on Fox and friends gets really triggered about hydroxychloroquine

Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:51 pm to
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Honestly, the studies so far are crap. They are. Doesn't mean hydroxychloroquine is not efficacious. It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about.


He's super intentional with his words which makes him difficult to interpret if you aren't used to listening/reading people who talk like him.


I agree, the data aren't great as it stands right now. We won't really know much of anything until well after the fact. Most critical care anecdotes I've heard (and these are guys I personally know, for the most part) aren't impressed with their results. Most of the NOLA guys I'm still in touch with don't see a big difference earlier on in the ones who got it vs different from what they've told me so far.


I guess they were right. Experience isn't something you can have until just after you need it.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:23 am to
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Most critical care anecdotes I've heard (and these are guys I personally know, for the most part) aren't impressed with their results. Most of the NOLA guys I'm still in touch with don't see a big difference earlier on in the ones who got it vs different from what they've told me so far
this is the exact opposite of what i've been hearing
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:18 am to
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He's super intentional with his words
He normally has been.
But either he's tired, overexposed, or age is starting to creep in.

Fauci issued oddly unclear opinions in the press recently. He understands the TDS MSM modus operandi. His messaging should be geared to counter that. In the past, it has been. Currently it isn't.

As you say, when parsed, material he's putting out is largely correct.
But it is laid out in a manner open to misinterpretation by a MSM bent on misinterpreting.

Hence the Press represents Fauci saying:
(1) Hydroxychloroquine is ineffective.
(2) Masks will protect the wearer from contracting Covid-19
(3) Covid-19 definitively arose from Wuhan wet markets (rather than lab contamination).

As to 1 & 2, that is not what he has said, but it is what he is allowing as misinterpretation.
e.g., Does Hydroxychloroquine work? Answer: We don't know.
But . . .
when media is breathlessly angling for a "Trump is wrong." "Hydroxychloroquine is voodoo." message, Fauci tacitly gives it to them by saying "we don't know if it works." His answer SHOULD be "We don't know that it doesn't work."

Same with masks. Their primary purpose is not to protect you, but rather to protect others from you.

But the real odd-ball is Fauci's matter-of-fact assertion of Covid-19's wet market origin. Fauci has far more information indicating hydroxychloroquine may work than he does for CV19's wet market origin. His wet market assertions are based on no facts at all. I find that very odd.

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BTW, my suspicion has always been that if Hydroxychloroquine works, its effect is mitigation rather than cure.
Symptoms reduced rather than eliminated.

We are hearing about HC successes in France and Spain.
Folks like Laura Ingraham tout those claims.
Yet the death rate in France and Spain is nearly 10%.
So something is amiss.

But for now, Trump wants to give folks hope.
There is some justification for what he is saying.
Fauci has made clear the science is not in.
Now he should make clear the POTUS was not wrong to give hope.
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