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re: Local ER doc (South LA) here to answer your COVID-19 questions

Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:10 am to
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They. Aren’t. Healthy.


Some are and the numbers (which what matters!!!), the numbers of admits are a strain right now. And if you reopen everything too quickly which was the argument in the other thread then you exponentially increase that strain.

We are adding hundreds of patients that are 18-49 into our hospitals which are typically not accounted for. If you open everything back up, that number jumps.

The argument that only the elderly are straining the system is false. You are wrong. They may be placing the most strain on the system but other demographic admissions have dramatically increased as well.

The idea that you can quarantine just the old and at-risk and not strain the system is wrong. We are quarantining 90% of society now and it is still straining it. If you allow this demographic out too early then you not only increase their hospitalization rates, you also increase transmission to the elderly and at-risk.


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Your studies are just about an age range. They don’t factor in obesity and other health issues.


They are looking at increased hospitalization rates in a demographic which is exactly what we are discussing.

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And the “rate” is low as frick in terms of the total number of sicknesses in that age range. I already have a post explaining why the 20% number is foolish to focus on and doesn’t tell the whole story.


All your points are completely ridiculous because you discount a whole set of numbers and unilaterally declare them irrelevant.

Do you honestly believe that you know more than the people running these systems? You know more than what the CDC is seeing and reporting on?

It's an incredible level of arrogance. For weeks, everything you've said about this pandemic has been wrong and now you sit here, with a complete lack of ability to understand statistical models, declaring what should be considered and what should not.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85313 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:21 am to
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Do you honestly believe that you know more than the people running these systems?
I believe the docs and analysts in this thread. Do you?

Look. I didn’t say that your 20% number was wrong. Just that it’s almost all unhealthy people. And the rate at which 18-49 year olds are being hospitalized is not 20%. Because that’s not what the number suggests.

My point is that healthy young people aren’t stressing the system. They’re not why we are where we are today. That’s not debatable man. You want to know when they stressed the system? Swine which attacked the working class way worse than this and mostly spared the old. It resulted in almost 300,000 hospitalizations in 10 months. How the hell did we survive that without a CNN death and case ticker???
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