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re: SBA loans in stimulus---basically give aways for any business with less than 500 employees

Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 6:53 pm to
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There's a specific payroll protection program in place now. Strict requirements to keep employees on the books and what not.


Right.

My understanding is if you keep people on payroll for the 8 week period, the loan amount for those costs, plus other overhead (rent utilities) WILL be forgiven. Whether you suffered a loss or would have fired them otherwise is irrelevant.

So, if you were going to be business as usual for the next 2 months, you can get a loan for that amount and essentially pocket that money.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
40284 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:15 pm to
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So, if you were going to be business as usual for the next 2 months, you can get a loan for that amount and essentially pocket that money.

that is correct
it is in every conceivable way “free money”.
what’s worse is this free money is not coming from anywhere...it is being conjured up out of thin air
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 7:22 pm to
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Right.

My understanding is if you keep people on payroll for the 8 week period, the loan amount for those costs, plus other overhead (rent utilities) WILL be forgiven. Whether you suffered a loss or would have fired them otherwise is irrelevant.

So, if you were going to be business as usual for the next 2 months, you can get a loan for that amount and essentially pocket that money.



Walk me through this please

What you’re saying is ......

Keep 10 employees on payroll next
9 weeks(2 months) at $8000/wk or $72,000 + WC $12,500

Plus overhead of $10,000

Then I get free check of $95,000 to keep?

Is that what you’re saying?

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
14340 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:01 am to
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So, if you were going to be business as usual for the next 2 months, you can get a loan for that amount and essentially pocket that money.



Thanks UD, thats the point. Its obvious the first few months going forward your business is going to suck.

Posters on here pretend you open your business tomorrow and suddenly your sales are what they were before this.

I doubt many will "profit" from it, and just may save many small businesses.

Id be curious how many on here have actually owned a substantial business during an economic downturn, or actually understand the economics of running a business with a substantial number of employees.

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