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re: Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:59 pm to
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any sort of healthcare for all system simply isn't tenable with our current structure of Government.
... or demographics, or cultural norms, nor patient expectations.

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I would like to see something better but that is flat out impossible as things stand today.
Of course not. You can't give away trillions of dollars in "free" care and have it be affordable for the minority of people left to pay for it. Math is a bitch like that.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69448 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:04 am to
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patient expectations.
Doesn't get nearly enough attention, and is yet another reason we will never have euro style health systems.

Most european nations installed their systems either before or RIGHT AFTER ww2. the medical industry still wasn't very formalized nor sophisticated. What this meant was that european nations didn't find it difficult at all to control costs, because europeans weren't used to some high quality, fancy healthcare.

compare that to America today. Our people are used to sophistacted, fancy, but expensive care and testing. You try to take it away to control costs and there will be hell to pay.


This is called PATH DEPENDENCY. Your options today are determined by actions you took a long time ago.

It is EASIER to not give someone something they never had, than it is to take something away from someone.

the former clause describes europe, the latter describes america.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:06 am to
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You can't give away trillions


The idea would be to drive down the cost to near zero through the release of suppressed technologies.

We have within our grasp to live in near perfect health.

The medical system in this country, while great, is still flawed and I'm not going to believe otherwise.

You need look no further than Ruth Bader Ginsburg to see what can happen if people are motivated to keep someone in good health. An 80 year old woman (hell probably older) who routinely at this point "beats cancer."
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