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re: Auschwitz survivors to return after 75 years for memorial ceremony
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:28 am to ksayetiger
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:28 am to ksayetiger
Yes people and governments that support legislation that limits free speech have shown their fascist roots. What better way of concealing the truth by making it illegal to even question history. Just think about that.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:43 am to Placebeaux
Since straight up arguing with you gets both of us nowhere, let me put it to you in a historical perspective. It seems like your biggest argument here is that some of the stories, pictures, and numbers are wrong.
You seem like a history person, so compare it to the events of a guy like Alexander the great. Most of the battle numbers are conjecture or completely made up, pretty much all of the accounts of his life we have from people who were either on his side, or paid to write about him. As he was destroying the Persian empire he was also destroying most of their records of him and of the Greeks, so because of that all of our accounts of the Persian wars pretty much also come from the Greeks and are full of bias and miss information. There are tons of historical quotes that are taught in schools as fact, that Herodotus just fully made up to try and tell a better story, because the people he was writing about died either during the event or soon after it and no written account of what they actually said or did exist.
It’s the same idea for a lot of the Holocaust, many of the people who experienced it or participated in it died during or soon after and never wrote anything down or kept any records, so we have no way of knowing exactly how or why or what they did. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen just because we don’t have detailed records of it, or parts of it may have been guessed at instead of confirmed with evidence that doesn’t exist.
One major difference between the holocaust and events of the life of Alexander the great, is we in fact do you millions of records from people who were there, and did experience it, not to mention all of the survivors who have talked about it, written about it, and discussed it at length. Many of the stories that are told, and the statistics that they give our backed up by historical fact and confirmed 100%. So I’m not sure what exactly you are grasping at? Because it’s possible that some of it isn’t confirmed fact, and at some of the stories may have been embellished overtime or pictures maybe miss identified then you want to try to say the whole thing was fake? Or the whole thing wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be?
Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint.
The Holocaust happened, it was horrible, millions of people died, and most of them for no reason other than their race, religion, or status in society. A few people embellishing stories or misremembering facts doesn’t prove anything, it just proves that they were people and they went through a traumatic event
You seem like a history person, so compare it to the events of a guy like Alexander the great. Most of the battle numbers are conjecture or completely made up, pretty much all of the accounts of his life we have from people who were either on his side, or paid to write about him. As he was destroying the Persian empire he was also destroying most of their records of him and of the Greeks, so because of that all of our accounts of the Persian wars pretty much also come from the Greeks and are full of bias and miss information. There are tons of historical quotes that are taught in schools as fact, that Herodotus just fully made up to try and tell a better story, because the people he was writing about died either during the event or soon after it and no written account of what they actually said or did exist.
It’s the same idea for a lot of the Holocaust, many of the people who experienced it or participated in it died during or soon after and never wrote anything down or kept any records, so we have no way of knowing exactly how or why or what they did. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen just because we don’t have detailed records of it, or parts of it may have been guessed at instead of confirmed with evidence that doesn’t exist.
One major difference between the holocaust and events of the life of Alexander the great, is we in fact do you millions of records from people who were there, and did experience it, not to mention all of the survivors who have talked about it, written about it, and discussed it at length. Many of the stories that are told, and the statistics that they give our backed up by historical fact and confirmed 100%. So I’m not sure what exactly you are grasping at? Because it’s possible that some of it isn’t confirmed fact, and at some of the stories may have been embellished overtime or pictures maybe miss identified then you want to try to say the whole thing was fake? Or the whole thing wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be?
Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint Again, you seem like someone who likes history and likes to be informed, but in this case you are pulling out information that you think validates your argument, when in fact you are being intentionally obtuse because you’ve already decided that you believe one way and only want to see evidence, or lack there of, that supports your viewpoint.
The Holocaust happened, it was horrible, millions of people died, and most of them for no reason other than their race, religion, or status in society. A few people embellishing stories or misremembering facts doesn’t prove anything, it just proves that they were people and they went through a traumatic event
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