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re: A rational look at the Clemson Tigers - can we leave emotions out of this for a minute
Posted on 1/4/20 at 1:14 pm to C ya soon
Posted on 1/4/20 at 1:14 pm to C ya soon
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I don't think that it is unreasonable to claim that Clemson has the best defense that you have faced this year.
You lost the little credibility that you had right there. Took only 6 sentences for that to happen. Yes we have. Auburn, Florida, Georgia.
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Competition adjusted statistics bear this out.
You did not play a top 25 team during the regular season. SEC's #8 team kentucky beat the ACC's #4 team Virgina Tech.
SEC's #4 team Florida beat the ACC's #2 conference running up and division champion Virginia. ACC is a dumpster fire. Your defensive stats are skewed. How can you and Clemsonards not see that. You played one ranked team, OSU and they put up over 500 yds of offense against your team.
Clemson is going up against the most accurate passer in the history of college football. Do you really think that is not going to come into play in the red zone? You got lucky with fields but we are talking about Burrow, the most accurate in the history of college football. Those red zone trips wont be fg like you think.
The problem with you Clemsonards is you think that your defense is all that in spite of the fact your team played nobodies all year and when you did, they put up 500 yds of offense against your magic defense. That is what you guys hang your hat on. That they are the best still, even though they played nobody all year and had the one ranked team you play put 500 yds of offense up on y'all. You all are seriously delusional.
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OSU was convinced they had the talent edge all over the field & on paper & maybe they did. But they don't play the game on paper.
Watching that game, it is like you all were moving in slow motion. Literally.
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I think our DBs will come up in press and we will keep safeties over the top. Not only will this slow down your short passing game, but it will put a larger number of people in position to blitz the QB from all angles. It also frees the LBs up a bit to corral the run and the outlet pass to CEH.
Sweet baby Jesus. Please blitz. Burrow is the best in the country at making people play when they blitz. He is 65% completion ratio when they blitz. If you blitz, he will make you pay and this game will be over with before halftime. You think Oklahoma got beat badly. Please blitz so we can leave more bodies on the field.
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On the other side - Our offense vs your defense. This is where it gets fun. I think you have some excellent players on your defense, but this offense is so varied and explosive that no matter what you take away, there is something else just waiting to be exploited. There are playmakers all over the field and just when you think you got it all covered, someone you never heard of takes advantage.
No. Just no. You have a good rb, a good qb and one good receiver. Divinity and Stingley are the two best corners in college football. Then add your slow moving pedestrian offense, its not even close. Wait till yall get a load of shelvin.
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At the helm is the best QB in college football.
This is where you lost the last of your credibility. You should be bitch slapped just on sheer principal for saying that. Just another example of how Clemsonards are idiots. Joe won the heisman and all the QB awards. Read this next part very slowly so you can actually grasp the magnitude of this. Joe Burrow is the most Accurate qb in the history of college football. You take the best QB's of all time in the NFL and understand that they have not accomplished that feat. None of them. Football is a game of inches and when your QB is the most accurate there was, there is and ever will be, you are going to lose that battle everytime.
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And he is going to distribute the ball to whichever playmaker that has the best advantage
Wrong. Joe is the best at dissecting defenses. Need proof? Look at his stats against the blitz. He processes things a lot faster than your trans qb.
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With all of our formations and playmakers - and TL at the helm, we will find the way to score more points than y'all.
Our D is going to give y'all offense a come to Jesus meeting when we in the Dome.
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:02 pm to Oneforthemoney
WOW, that is a lot of BS. Let's go one by one, shall we
1. Clemson's defense - best defense that you will face
according to NCAA stats
Total D #2 (OSU #1 - so you haven't played them)
Scoring D #1
Passing Efficency D #1
TFL #8 (no one above that has play y'all this year)
Now let me anticipate your objection and give you the competition adjusted stats from adjustedstats.com
Yards per Game D #1
Yards per Play D #1
Yards per possession D #1
Point per Game D #2 (GA. is #1 but only because
they stopped their inputs on 12/7 - the NCAA
stats go through 1/3/20)
I know that you would like to think that GA, FL, & Auburn were better than us on D, but there is no empirical evidence for your position. We are better on D - incredible, but true.
Slow motion - Those must have been optical illusions when TL and ETN ran by their entire defenses for TDs.
Blitz - I promise you we will - when and where Joe least expects it. Joe is very good at picking up blitzes but he hasn't seen us yet. Will he complete some - sure. But will he string enough together to score TDs - that remains to be seen.
"You have a good QB, a good RB, and one good receiver"
Now this is where you lose YOUR credibility. Any objective observer would grant that we have an elite QB, an elite RB, and two elite WRs. So you are obviously starting to let your emotions get the better of you here.
the best QB -
I understand that you think Joe is the best and, at least here, you have plenty of empirical evidence. I won't even think to argue that he is not having a fantastic year, but here's the thing. QBs are judged based on winning the ultimate game - the championship. My boy has won one (as a freshman) and in a few days he will win his second. Can we agree that the QB who leads his team to the ultimate victory is the best ? If y'all win, I will concede that - will you if the roles are reversed ?
And finally, your come-to-jesus defense. On paper, y'all have some real studs, but our defense, as a whole, is better on the field and the stats back that up.
The whole premise of our optimism at Clemson boils down to this. Both teams have averaged about 45 - 49 points per game. We think our defense will slow your offense down more than your defense will slow our offense down. And unless there are major injuries or turnovers that will decide the game.
Y'all have had a great year. You should back your team to the hilt and enjoy every minute of it. I would never consider you arrogant for doing so. If it is arrogant of me to do so (especially with the defending champs) then I can live with that.
I hope y'all have a good and injury free game. C ya on the 13th.
1. Clemson's defense - best defense that you will face
according to NCAA stats
Total D #2 (OSU #1 - so you haven't played them)
Scoring D #1
Passing Efficency D #1
TFL #8 (no one above that has play y'all this year)
Now let me anticipate your objection and give you the competition adjusted stats from adjustedstats.com
Yards per Game D #1
Yards per Play D #1
Yards per possession D #1
Point per Game D #2 (GA. is #1 but only because
they stopped their inputs on 12/7 - the NCAA
stats go through 1/3/20)
I know that you would like to think that GA, FL, & Auburn were better than us on D, but there is no empirical evidence for your position. We are better on D - incredible, but true.
Slow motion - Those must have been optical illusions when TL and ETN ran by their entire defenses for TDs.
Blitz - I promise you we will - when and where Joe least expects it. Joe is very good at picking up blitzes but he hasn't seen us yet. Will he complete some - sure. But will he string enough together to score TDs - that remains to be seen.
"You have a good QB, a good RB, and one good receiver"
Now this is where you lose YOUR credibility. Any objective observer would grant that we have an elite QB, an elite RB, and two elite WRs. So you are obviously starting to let your emotions get the better of you here.
the best QB -
I understand that you think Joe is the best and, at least here, you have plenty of empirical evidence. I won't even think to argue that he is not having a fantastic year, but here's the thing. QBs are judged based on winning the ultimate game - the championship. My boy has won one (as a freshman) and in a few days he will win his second. Can we agree that the QB who leads his team to the ultimate victory is the best ? If y'all win, I will concede that - will you if the roles are reversed ?
And finally, your come-to-jesus defense. On paper, y'all have some real studs, but our defense, as a whole, is better on the field and the stats back that up.
The whole premise of our optimism at Clemson boils down to this. Both teams have averaged about 45 - 49 points per game. We think our defense will slow your offense down more than your defense will slow our offense down. And unless there are major injuries or turnovers that will decide the game.
Y'all have had a great year. You should back your team to the hilt and enjoy every minute of it. I would never consider you arrogant for doing so. If it is arrogant of me to do so (especially with the defending champs) then I can live with that.
I hope y'all have a good and injury free game. C ya on the 13th.
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