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re: Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??

Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:14 am to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:14 am to
I don't know how "clearly" a series of questions indicates I think I have something figured out.

Here is another--how much should a family sacrifice for an addict in the family? Should they throw them out or feed and house them off the income of the rest of the family?

I know a man 60 years old living off of his 85 year old mother. He is an addict and out of work. He literally will spend any money that comes his way on dope. Should a food bank help him save money on food to spend on dope?

Just asking not taking a position.

Is the Salvation Army wrong to expect clients to take some responsibility??

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LENGTH OF RESIDENCE

? The Salvation Army offers emergency shelter. Each client is permitted a length of stay not to
exceed 30 days from initial check in. Within the first seven days of staying in the shelter, the resident must meet with the Residential Services Manager for an extension. If a resident vacates the Shelter within those 30 days, they may not return for additional shelter without seeing a Residential Services Manager. Only one 30 day residence within a one year period (Program Year = October-September) will be allowed.

? Only under permitted circumstances are Emergency Shelter residents allowed an overnight pass. Circumstances such as funerals for immediate family members, court appearances in a different city or other circumstances may be granted permission. Documentation of the circumstance must
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be presented to the Residential Services Manager before and after leaving the shelter. Failure to produce supportive documentation may not allow re-entry into the Emergency Shelter.

CASE MANAGEMENT

? Each resident is required to meet with the Residential Services Manager as soon as possible but no longer than 7 days. Resident may be granted up to 30 days in Emergency Shelter.

? For every 30 day stay in the shelter, we ask that each resident fill out a survey to help the Salvation Army measure outcomes on helping people meet their goals and improve their lives.

? Each resident will complete the client intake form. This will help determine any needs the Residential Services Manager is able to assist with or make appropriate referrals. Residents may set goals to help pursue self-sufficiency. Residential Services Manager will assist resident in achieving these goals.

? Each resident must meet with the Residential Services Manager on a weekly or bi weekly basis. If the client is not working, they must meet on a weekly basis. If the client is working, they may meet every two weeks. This will be determined by the Residential Services Manager. Drop in appointments are discouraged. Each appointment must be made with the receptionist after each kept appointment.

? If resident is not working, they must complete and turn in a job search form for every day they are unemployed. The job search form has 4 job searches. This is the minimum amount of jobs allowed to be turned in per day. Job search forms may be turned into the monitor on duty. The monitor will place in the Residential Service Manager’s box. Monitors may give the resident more job search forms.

? If the resident is working, they must turn in a copy of their work schedule, a copy of most recent pay stub and agree to start up a savings account.

? If the resident is on disability or applying for disability, then the resident and the Residential Services Manager must come to an agreement on the terms for staying in shelter. If the resident is on disability, the most recent award letter must be turned in and will be placed in the residents file. The resident must begin a savings account.

? Each bed in the Shelter is assigned a chore. It is the resident’s responsibility to look to see which chore is assigned to their bed. The chores are posted in each dorm room, by the bathrooms, the laundry rooms and behind each dorm in the family rooms. Each chore must be completed on a daily basis.

? Failure to follow the rules mentioned above could result in dismissal or written violations. Three written violations will result in dismissal.


They do an outstanding job and know more than I about dealing with these problems. Looks like they will put em on the street if they don't follow the rules. Should families be like that too??

This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57576 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:26 am to
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Here is another--how much should a family sacrifice for an addict in the family? Should they throw them out or feed and house them off the income of the rest of the family?



Every situation is different but if a person has become a drain on a family that is already struggling, sure throw them out. Most shelters require people staying overnight/taking up a bed to be sober, which is a reason so many addicts turn to living on the street. They choose their addiction over a safe bed to sleep in.

I'm just not following what this has to do with food banks being drug addict enablers. Do you want food banks to require a drug screen or turn away hungry people? If someone shows up to a food bank hungry and requiring food, who cares what their story is?
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 10:30 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28124 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:31 am to
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Should families be like that too?


Do you know what it is like to turn a family member out like that? Do you know the level of guilt and stress that it places on a family....the level of guilt , the sleepless nights, the worry? Yes, obstensebly it has to be done, but doing it is gut wrenching...try putting your child out on the street like that
My aunt did it to my cousin. The despair that woman and my uncle went through was profound. Not knowing if they were alive or dead or where they were? It was not until my brother found him 3 years later ....ironically less than a mile from his mother's house did he start getting clean. He was panhandling . He walked up to my brother's car, my brother recognized him and my brother stopped the car walked up to him and told him to get in. Spent 7 months in rehab....cost me and him over 100K with no guarantees
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