re: Worst Historical Disaster — Civil War or Second Great Awakening?

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or Second Great Awakening

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Damn hoss, try to read up on history some time

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the disaster of the 18th Amendment and the legacy of organized crime left in its wake.

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Ever heard of 5 points in Manhattan? Boss Tweed? 5 points had the highest murder rate in the world in the 1790s. Organized crime long had a foothold in our country before the 2nd great awakening. The awakening made us into the US that we are, not into another Russianesque oligarchy

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there would have been no Abolitionist movement

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And yet every other nation on the planet had abolitionist movements, without a 2nd great awakening. How the eff did they manage that?

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there would likely have been no War on Drugs, and the legacy of mass incarceration which arose from IT.

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So we hang around as a 3rd world country then? Cuz that's what its like in So. & Cen. America with its rampant drug culture