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re: "Midway" is expected to be a surprise #1 at the box office this weekend...
Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:02 am to TigerCard
Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:02 am to TigerCard
The Dive Bombers did attack in waves, standard formation of the 5 plane group is 3-2.
The 3 in a v formation, with the group commander (like Best in the Middle). The 2 in lead wingman formation.
When Best dived on the Akagi, his left wingman just missed the bow of the Akagi and his right got a glazing hit that just bounced into the water near the rudder of the Akagi, while Best hit the dead center of the Akagi with the 1000 pound bomber.
These attacks are all under 5 minutes by all the dive bombers from the Enterprise and Yorktown. That is 27 dive bombers lead by Wade McClusky attacking the Kaga, in that attack is Clarence Dickerson and Jack Kleiss. The attack on the Soryu is lead by Max Leslie and has 17 planes of the Yorktown.
The Kaga is known to been hit 4 time and likely had a 5th hit aft pre the newest research on the Japanese accounts, that is 5 to 27 ratio on the slowest of the Japanese fleet carriers. Kleiss is one of the Hits his wingman missed.
Wade McClusky is a fighter pilot and was used as a dive bomber pilot on the mission leading the attack, this is why the mix up on the attack happens, as Wade McClusky group should have attacked the far carrier (the Akagi) and Best's group the Kaga. Best see the mistake and pulls out of the dive on the Kaga with his two wingmen and attacks the Akagi.
All 30 planes were diving on the Kaga at once in step formation of 2 groupings. Bomber six is commanded By Best and has 15 planes, Lt. W.E. GALLAHER is leading Scouting Six of 15 planes, Wade is overall command leading in scouting six.
The 3 in a v formation, with the group commander (like Best in the Middle). The 2 in lead wingman formation.
When Best dived on the Akagi, his left wingman just missed the bow of the Akagi and his right got a glazing hit that just bounced into the water near the rudder of the Akagi, while Best hit the dead center of the Akagi with the 1000 pound bomber.
These attacks are all under 5 minutes by all the dive bombers from the Enterprise and Yorktown. That is 27 dive bombers lead by Wade McClusky attacking the Kaga, in that attack is Clarence Dickerson and Jack Kleiss. The attack on the Soryu is lead by Max Leslie and has 17 planes of the Yorktown.
The Kaga is known to been hit 4 time and likely had a 5th hit aft pre the newest research on the Japanese accounts, that is 5 to 27 ratio on the slowest of the Japanese fleet carriers. Kleiss is one of the Hits his wingman missed.
Wade McClusky is a fighter pilot and was used as a dive bomber pilot on the mission leading the attack, this is why the mix up on the attack happens, as Wade McClusky group should have attacked the far carrier (the Akagi) and Best's group the Kaga. Best see the mistake and pulls out of the dive on the Kaga with his two wingmen and attacks the Akagi.
All 30 planes were diving on the Kaga at once in step formation of 2 groupings. Bomber six is commanded By Best and has 15 planes, Lt. W.E. GALLAHER is leading Scouting Six of 15 planes, Wade is overall command leading in scouting six.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 4:07 am
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:26 am to tigger1
The reason for the formation attacks:
There are two types of attack in the dive bomber a gliding attack (which the Marine pilots used) and the steppe angle attack the Navy pilots used.
The carriers are fast and can steer very fast, as the attacker you are trying to cover a block of ocean to hit the target in. In the dive there is little room for maneuver and your coming in at very steppe angle. The reason for so many misses is the block covered and the steering of the carrier.
The Hiryu and Soryu are the 2 fastest of the Japanese carriers and can steer very small circles, this can been seen in the B-17 attacks photographs.
Torpedo attacks also used formation in 2 groups called the hammer and anvil attack.
Japanese defects, no radar, target fixation (most were watching the clean up of the last torpedo attack when the dive bombers showed up and like in the Indian Ocean attack on the carriers had not clue), Japanese AA guns could not cover the dive at the step angle over the deck.
Why so many hits on the front of the carriers? The Japanese painted a huge Red Sun near the front of the carriers flight deck and near all the pilots aimed for that point.
There are two types of attack in the dive bomber a gliding attack (which the Marine pilots used) and the steppe angle attack the Navy pilots used.
The carriers are fast and can steer very fast, as the attacker you are trying to cover a block of ocean to hit the target in. In the dive there is little room for maneuver and your coming in at very steppe angle. The reason for so many misses is the block covered and the steering of the carrier.
The Hiryu and Soryu are the 2 fastest of the Japanese carriers and can steer very small circles, this can been seen in the B-17 attacks photographs.
Torpedo attacks also used formation in 2 groups called the hammer and anvil attack.
Japanese defects, no radar, target fixation (most were watching the clean up of the last torpedo attack when the dive bombers showed up and like in the Indian Ocean attack on the carriers had not clue), Japanese AA guns could not cover the dive at the step angle over the deck.
Why so many hits on the front of the carriers? The Japanese painted a huge Red Sun near the front of the carriers flight deck and near all the pilots aimed for that point.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 4:42 am
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