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re: When did our culture quit producing men that would “do what’s right”?

Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:37 pm to
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No, I'm making the claim that an objectively moral system cannot be inconsistent.


You're confusing objective with absolute. If there's a moral authority, then that moral authority can dictate that A is moral in this situation, but not in this other situation. Or that same authority could say that A is moral today and immoral tomorrow.

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Why is that "quite rational"?

You don't think a creator has authority over what he creates? Who does, then?

I didn't use a child as an example because I don't own the child's life the same way I own the truck. If there's a creator of the universe then everything in that universe is a truck.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:40 pm to
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I didn't use a child as an example because I don't own the child's life the same way I own the truck. If there's a creator of the universe then everything in that universe is a truck.


Explain why humanity is the truck in this situation and not the child.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73988 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:43 pm to
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You're confusing objective with absolute. If there's a moral authority, then that moral authority can dictate that A is moral in this situation, but not in this other situation. Or that same authority could say that A is moral today and immoral tomorrow.


You're confusing objective with subjective. If this authority can shift what is moral, it isn't an objectively moral system. It's simply shifting subjectivity to a different authority.

Objective morality does not exist.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
23109 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:54 pm to
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You're confusing objective with absolute. If there's a moral authority, then that moral authority can dictate that A is moral in this situation, but not in this other situation. Or that same authority could say that A is moral today and immoral tomorrow.


What you've just described is absolute (and subjective), I'm critiquing objective morality as that's what virtually every Christian has claimed forms their worldview with respect to morality.

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You don't think a creator has authority over what he creates? Who does, then?


Not necessarily, and there's a lot of variables to account for in determining who would.

Moreover, even if that question couldn't be answered you don't get to just plug God in there automatically.

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I didn't use a child as an example because I don't own the child's life the same way I own the truck. If there's a creator of the universe then everything in that universe is a truck.


Yea, you don't own a child's life in the same way you own a truck, because one is an animate object and the other isn't (see my last post).
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 1:56 pm
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