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re: Wimbledon Final Shows Why Men Deserve To Be Paid More

Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:03 pm to
As defined by time on the court. That argument can and would be shredded.
Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
Against Totes answer my question. Why are you so against women earning their equal pay? Why are you against, in the very least, women going to best 3 out of 5 in the majors?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
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lol you’re saying if the men play longer they should be paid more.


To be fair, more time on court means more tv commercials which generally means more ad revenue.

The problem is the men are going to have to strike at one point, and it will be glorious.

Long term, the men's ratings simply blow the women away. Therefore, the men have credible reasons to expect more pay. End of story.
Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:07 pm to
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To be fair, more time on court means more tv commercials which generally means more ad revenue.

The problem is the men are going to have to strike at one point, and it will be glorious.

Long term, the men's ratings simply blow the women away. Therefore, the men have credible reasons to expect more pay. End of story.


Exactly baldona! The men's game is by far the more popular game outside of the U.S. Hardly anyone outside the U.S. watches the women's game. Go to some of the stand alone WTA tournaments, there is barely anyone there!!!

TV ratings and the amount tv providers can charge advertisers for men's tennis coverage dwarfs what they can charge for women's tennis coverage. That's been proven time and time again.

I bet if you asked most men's tennis players off the record they would admit they think the setup in the Majors is BS. They just won't say it because they know they'll be attacked by the feminist media.

But like you said Baldona the only way it's ever going to change is for Men to go on strike at some point. Force the hand of the Majors, either pay Men more or force the Women to play best 3 of 5.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:08 pm to
I’m not against women moving to best of five. It’s the rest of your argument that’s ridiculous.

Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:09 pm to
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I’m not against women moving to best of five. It’s the rest of your argument that’s ridiculous.


But I can tell you think women should still be paid equal to men even if they stay at best two of three. How can you justify that? And don't say attendance and TV revenue, every metric shows that the men's game dwarfs the women's game in both categories. No one outside the U.S. cares at all about the women's game.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:11 pm to
I wouldn’t argue that. I think there’s more to it than simply equal paychecks, but if the men bring in more revenue, pay them more. I’m fine with that.

But paying them representative to time on the court is stupid.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6627 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:13 pm to
Women deserves whatever they can manage to get. Whether it's the same as men or less. I don't know why you guys go to bat for the corporate entities who fund this junk. I'm not crying over FIFA having to shell out more of it's Qatari oil money.
Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Women deserves whatever they can manage to get. Whether it's the same as men or less. I don't know why you guys go to bat for the corporate entities who fund this junk. I'm not crying over FIFA having to shell out more of it's Qatari oil money.


Ssubba I hate it because it's hypocritical. Switch the scenarios and the feminist women would be going absolutely insane if the women got the same pay as men for MORE work. You would be hearing it on all the news channels and they would be demanding a "conversation" but yet because it's men who get the same pay for MORE work you hear nothing.

I feel so bad for Roger Federer, puts all he has into a grueling five sets and gets paid the same as Serena Williams who essentially just mailed it in.

Serena Williams should get at best half the money Roger Federer is going to get due to this but due to feminists they'll get paid the same. In essence Serena gets paid fair more per hour than Roger and that's sad.
This post was edited on 7/14/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:22 pm to
Agreed

Plus Serena is trashy AF

Glad that POS lost
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Some of us actually like watching tennis.


not that there is anything wrong with that!!!
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:30 pm to
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1". but, hey some people like watching sweaty hairy men on tv

So you watch football?
Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Agreed

Plus Serena is trashy AF

Glad that POS lost


Same here, I hope she never wins another Major again and is angry every night knowing she never broke Margaret Court's record. Luckily I don't think she will, she doesn't have the foot work or movement to win a Major anymore. She used to be able to just overpower her opponent but she can't do that to the top women at this point.
Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:31 pm to
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So you watch football?


Haha I said the same thing. I hope that poster doesn't watch any sports because I'm pretty sure most sports have sweaty hairy men.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Same here, I hope she never wins another Major again and is angry every night knowing she never broke Margaret Court's record. Luckily I don't think she will, she doesn't have the foot work or movement to win a Major anymore. She used to be able to just overpower her opponent but she can't do that to the top women at this point.


That’s good
I don’t watch tennis so it’s good see someone else who knows who doesn’t think she’ll win . Just the finals and when Serena was in it just rooting against here
Just glad to see her out
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:35 pm to
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So you watch football?


that's a negative. is ok, don't get defensive, we all like what we like. everybody is different. no shame if you like homoerotic stuff. that nadal IS sexy when he takes off his shirt, no?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:35 pm to
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Haha I said the same thing. I hope that poster doesn't watch any sports because I'm pretty sure most sports have sweaty hairy men.


He’s a weird baw

But i make sure To keep it non gay when my baws and si watch sports

Just nothing but beers and playboys on the coffee table so we don’t catch the bug
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:37 pm to
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Don't give a sh*t.


Of course you don't. No argument will hold water with you because you're a sexist alt-right POS.
Posted by surftiger321
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:40 pm to
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That’s good
I don’t watch tennis so it’s good see someone else who knows who doesn’t think she’ll win . Just the finals and when Serena was in it just rooting against here
Just glad to see her out


Plus as you notice nowadays she tires out very easily in matches. She's never regained the conditioning or physical stamina she had before her pregnancy. Obviously it's understandable that you lose a step after a pregnancy but unless she can regain the conditioning and physical stamina that would allow to her to improve her foot work and movement she will never win another major. I would honestly put money down on that.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 2:41 pm to
So if their matches were equal length they should get paid the same? Stupid. You’re paid on value, on which case, yes men should be paid more in this case.
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