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I thought Trump tore it up. This is the logical result of Trump’s action. Did anyone expect them to comply with a treaty that Trump already breached?

The dumb is strong in this one.

Trump dropped the USA out of it. It was a multilateral agreement and the Europeans were/are still abiding by it.

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Posted by bamarep

Member since Nov 2013

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Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:56 am to udtiger

Not so subtle Bamarep reminder:

This fraud of a deal WAS NOT ratified by Congress.

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Posted by cwill

Member since Jan 2005

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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:15 am to udtiger

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Trump dropped the USA out of it. It was a multilateral agreement and the Europeans were/are still abiding by it.

Not really, the US sanctions posed a problem and the Europeans were trying to negotiate a way around them but no agreement was reached. Additionally, in a multilateral agreement, if one of the two key parties withdraws, is there really a deal in place to be breached? Whether the Iranians would have breached regardless is now unknowable. The answer to the question of whether they would increase enrichment levels if the US withdrew is "yes".

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Posted by volod

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Member since Jun 2014

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Posted on 7/9/19 at 5:05 am to udtiger

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Trump dropped the USA out of it. It was a multilateral agreement and the Europeans were/are still abiding by it.

TBoy is right on this one. It was a multilateral deal, but the US leaving it technically breaks the agreement. It doesnt help that Russia is trying to back out as well. The US 'cast the first stone' for this contract.

Look. Im not saying leaving the deal was a bad decision. I understand the reasoning. But breaking part of a contract and expecting the other side not to respond is naive. It was inevitable that Iran would do more once the US left.

This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 5:06 am

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