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re: God dictates gender, which does not exist on a spectrum and cannot be changed
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:48 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:48 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:that is not gender. that's just cultural behavior. gender is not defined by culture. it is defined by your biological sex.
What we think of as feminine in the US may not be considered feminine in another culture
quote:it's not. our culture has manufactured this and you have bought into it.
sex being irrelevant in this case
quote:that is fashion, not gender.
Think of wearing a skirt. Generally, in our culture this is seen as feminine, in Scotland, it is not
quote:no i'm not. you're saying gender is culturally dependent. it's not. it's your cognitive realization of your sex.
You're conflating gender and sex
quote:they should be coextensive. it's common sense and it's what multiple people have been saying itt.
They are not the same thing
quote:oh my word. neuter pronouns are not a sex all their own. they refer to EITHER sex or both. language is a completely different matter than psychological gender
there are many cultures where three genders are recognized: masculine, feminine, and neuter. Think of language
quote:and i've explained how you are wrong on this matter. just because our contemporary culture is botching it up doesn't mean gender gets reinvented.
there is no biological basis for gender, only for sex
quote:only to confused contemporary westerners. you have been given an analogy/parody of the slippery slope involved in this. i'm not sure why you are ignoring it.
These can diverge, however
quote:i have not argued against this. what i have said is that our culture has normalized the unhealthy behavior of ssa, sex change operations, etc. iow, if you have a ssa epigenetic tendency, you need to act on it and society just needs to accept whatever you do. that is completely wrong, it is hurting our society and makes no sense biologically
A male appearing to be feminine isn't delusional
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:37 am to bfniii
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gender is not defined by culture. it is defined by your biological sex.
No, it isn't. I have a boat, she's a beauty. You think my boat has a sex? She does not. You don't think that's culturally dependent gender assignment to a boat?
You can have gender without sex.
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it's your cognitive realization of your sex.
You're conflating gender and sex again.
Let me reiterate:
Gender = masculine/feminine
Sex = male/female
That's it, that's all. You're buying into this new-age redefinition of what "gender" means, and I'm not buying it.
Here we go again...
I said:
quote:
three genders are recognized: masculine, feminine, and neuter
Here's your response:
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neuter pronouns are not a sex all their own.
I didn't say they were a "sex", I said they were a "gender". Why are you insisting on equating sex with gender?
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you have been given an analogy/parody of the slippery slope involved in this. i'm not sure why you are ignoring it.
Because it doesn't make any sense. Just try to give clear, concise definitions of gender and sex. Try not to use analogies, parodies or metaphors in your definitions.
fenêtres have been feminine for a thousand years, and yet windows have no sex. You don't think that's culturally dependent gender assignment to a window? Some cultures think windows are feminine, other cultures do not.
It's funny to watch you fall into their trap, and struggle to try to deny it.
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