I may be wrong, but I feel you believe that conception begins when the sperm enters the egg. However, there is a lot more that needs to happen before that ever even becomes a viable pregnancy. Thus why I said you are entitled to your opinion. To me, there are far too many variables to consider "conception" as the moment when the sperm enters the egg.

Fertilization of an egg can occur as early as 3 days past ovulation. The fertilized egg then develops for several days before attempting implantation around 7 days past ovulation.

It's important to note that a fertilized egg can fail to implant or can implant in a fallopian tube or somewhere other than where it is supposed to. That's why I believe you have a difference of opinion than I do surrounding when a fetus can be considered a person.

Obviously I am making assumptions off your previous post and may be misinterpreting.

Again, I have my opinion and feel others are entitled to theirs even though they may not have the same opinion as I do

ETA: I see this has been touched on by others so I feel somewhat foolish. Oh well

This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 9:18 pm

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Posted by bfniii

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Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:18 pm to helluvaday

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there is a lot more that needs to happen before that ever even becomes a viable pregnancy

my wife had a miscarriage. we know that the body rejected the fetus because it wasn't genetically viable. i'm not talking about those cases. i'm talking about working backwards from a healthy fetus. for those cases, there was no personhood gap between parents and offspring. once conception occurred (given viability) the fetus was a person in that it had everything necessary to develop into a sentient human being

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there are far too many variables to consider "conception" as the moment when the sperm enters the egg

i think you're stretching the term past it's plasticity

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a fertilized egg can fail to implant or can implant in a fallopian tube or somewhere other than where it is supposed to

this seems like sophistry to me. it's pretty much impossible at that point to tell whether the fetus is genetically viable. it just hasn't developed enough. you don't even have the first appt until 10-12 weeks. that's why reasonable people in this thread have advocated for erring on the side of caution; wait until we know for sure if it genetically viable or not. if so, killing it for convenience is murder.

you're looking exclusively at the physiological which ignores the metaphysical/epigenetic aspect. that's not atypical for pro choice people. they want to get mired down in the debate over when the baby is physically developed to a vague, subjective degree

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