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re: Rewatching 2011 season. Dinosaurian Offense

Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:25 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46778 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:25 am to
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My problem with TO is this, and negates any efficiency. It's really a shite stat, especially with the explosion of hunh.

its severely skewed towards HUNH teams.

team a has 500 yards on 80 plays
team b has 499 yards on 60 plays.


total says team a was more productive but team b was actually the more productive offense when the ball was snapped.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
51525 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 3:48 am to
Yards per play is a more precise stat when it comes to offensive production. Teams with great defenses don’t normally have huge total yards stats because they’re getting the ball with much better field position and they’re also grinding out leads late in games as where teams with bad defenses get a lot of garbage time yardage because they’re throwing 20 passes in the 4th quarter alone. Yards per play, touchdowns, pass efficiency and points per possession are more telling than total offense. I’d much rather have a team that throws for 3,000 yards averages 9 yards per attempt and 30 TDs 7 INTs with a run game that averages almost 6 yards per carry with 30 TDs than an offense that throws for 5,000 yards on 6.8 ypa with 45TDs and 18 INTs with 4.9 ypc rushing and 15 TDs.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 3:52 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14843 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:20 am to
Rick I think the stat you prefer is yards per play correct? Here are the numbers the last 10 years:

2009: 4.9
2010: 5.3
2011: 5.8
2012: 5.3
2013: 6.4
2014: 5.3
2015: 6.6
2016: 6.6
2017: 5.9
2018: 5.3

2013 was Mett/OBJ/Landry/Hill.
2015 and 2016 was Fournette/Guice

Our best years, one could argue are more a reflection of personnel. Last year we were dead last in the SEC (112th in CFB) in returning production offensively with new starting WRs, RBs, QB and 2/5 OL. I wasn't happy with SE's play calling, but we can't ignore the difficulty he faced with personnel. Brossette does not compare to Guice, Fournette or Hill and CEH/Brossette is not on the level of any other recent RB combos.

2019 will be significantly different with LSU being near the top in returning production and with the addition of a more dynamic RB with Emery. It will be interesting to see if Brady makes a difference which I think he will, but I actually feel somewhat bad for SE bc I believe from a personnel standpoint the O would be much better in 2019 regardless, but if they do show a jump, Brady will likely get all the credit.
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