re: PSST!!! IB90proof... It's been over a year.. Tariffs have no effect on consumers so far

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you need to start making sense

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so you don't understand how fair trade practices in isolated segments of the economy are downstream of ip theft by a military rival? if that doesn't make sense to you, you should stop commenting on the topic. to quote spider man - you can't be the friendly neighborhood spider if there's no neighborhood

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because all that's been offered for it is rhetoric or extremely vague and scary-sounding unsourced estimates that no one can discuss in any detail

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so you don't know. that's all you had to say. this is the typical 90 bluster. the purpose of the bluster is to avoid having to admit you're wrong

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see my imaginary and vague big picture!

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so ip theft by china and the threat is represents is imaginary and vague? again, either you're trolling or you are just dense

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what is at issue is the magnitude of the problem

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exactly. hence, tariffs. it's a big deal and an urgent threat

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the cost of any fix

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the cost is proportionate to the threat. yeah, that might mean a handful of products increase in price. i'm sorry you don't understand this. this country would be in big trouble if you were running it. "sir, china is stealing our ip and we are seeing it show up in their military hardware." 90 responds "but MUH WASHING MACHINES!"

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feefees aren't a great basis for far-reaching policy actions

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you didn't even try to respond to my point. temporary, downstream (not a matter of national security), episodic (only SOME segments of the economy). what you are looking at is incidental compared to the reason for the tariffs.

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restating it 100 times won't make it any better

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yet more "no you didn't" evasion. how about explaining precisely HOW my comment is invalid? you can't because you know i'm right. you are looking at factors that are secondary to national security.

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it's really asking too much of someone to respond substantively

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i know, right! you shouldn't have to be required to actually defend your positions with facts and stuff. you should just get to say NUH UNH and everyone just go right along with you. now, if you really wanted to defend your position, you would show how the price of steel and washing machines is at least equal to ip theft by china in importance. but since no one can do that, you're pretty much just wasting space.