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Posted on 12/8/19 at 3:40 am to
Posted by Babushka
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 12/8/19 at 3:40 am to
Some thoughts after watching Gym 101:

VT
- Worrying lack of depth here. The core 5 of Edney, Edwards, Harrold, Johnson and Rivers should suffice but that's only 4 10.0 SVs.
- I wonder if we can eke out a DTY from Rivers. She last competed it 2 years ago.
- Lexie Nibbs looks like the front-runner for that #6 spot. Nice power, just gotta control it.

UB
- I actually think Johnson has the best and cleanest UB routine in the lineup and should anchor. She's basically doing Kyla Ross's routine and can be counted on to stick her dismount.
- I'm surprised that Jay kept the 1/1 pirouette in Rivers' routine.
- Durante's dismount looks much improved. Hopefully she can replicate it in competition.
- Durante, Shchennikova, Rivers, Harrold, Edney, Johnson is a great lineup, but there's a huge drop-off in quality after these 6.

BB
- Johnson seems to be doing way too much difficulty. I'd have her do either the punch front or front aerial. Not both.
- Campbell's switch 1/2 is looking more and more like a switch side with 1/4 turn. I hope they're working on that with her because the rest of the routine is pristine.
- Overall, I feel we need better beam choreography. That's where UCLA and OK excel and it separates great from excellent.

FX
- Echoing my comments on BB, on first impression, the gymnasts deserve better choreography.
- Firstly, why are all of them performing to the same, interchangeable dated electro music?
- I don't get a sense of story or character from these routines, which again is what sets OK and UCLA apart. Even if the choreo is not great, choosing unique music can do so much heavy lifting in terms of presentation.
- Not sure if it's the best idea to have Gunther do a legacy routine.
- Tumbling-wise, I was pleasantly surprised! Esp with the DLO from Edwards and double arabian from Gunther. Johnson's full in was monstrous.

This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 6:58 am
Posted by tlricks04
Member since Jan 2019
1215 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:16 am to
Vault
I think the final spot will be between Ryan or Nibbs. Nibbs has the power but Ryan has the form. I think both vaults will get better with time.

Bars
I disagree that Kiya should be the anchor. I’m okay with having her lead off right now. She’s the only one w/o a major release. However, I’m pretty sure Ruby will not be the anchor. And Kai is normally spot on with the pirouette. I think she was late because of nerves.

Beam
Beam was fine imo. Yes, Kiya has a ton of difficulty but I trust that she can handle it. She’s a legit beamer.

Floor
Gunter practically having Sydney Ewing’s floor routine was a surprise to me. I totally didn’t expect it. I think it’s fine since I don’t expect her to make the final floor lineup at end of season. I think Edwards, Harrold, Desiderio, Rivers, Johnson, and Edney will be the final six. I do feel that some of the music didn’t match the choreography, mainly Dean and Campbell’s routines. But it’s early and things can always change.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67967 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

VT
- Worrying lack of depth here. The core 5 of Edney, Edwards, Harrold, Johnson and Rivers should suffice but that's only 4 10.0 SVs.
- I wonder if we can eke out a DTY from Rivers. She last competed it 2 years ago.
- Lexie Nibbs looks like the front-runner for that #6 spot. Nice power, just gotta control it.

UB
- I actually think Johnson has the best and cleanest UB routine in the lineup and should anchor. She's basically doing Kyla Ross's routine and can be counted on to stick her dismount.
- I'm surprised that Jay kept the 1/1 pirouette in Rivers' routine.
- Durante's dismount looks much improved. Hopefully she can replicate it in competition.
- Durante, Shchennikova, Rivers, Harrold, Edney, Johnson is a great lineup, but there's a huge drop-off in quality after these 6.

BB
- Johnson seems to be doing way too much difficulty. I'd have her do either the punch front or front aerial. Not both.
- Campbell's switch 1/2 is looking more and more like a switch side with 1/4 turn. I hope they're working on that with her because the rest of the routine is pristine.
- Overall, I feel we need better beam choreography. That's where UCLA and OK excel and it separates great from excellent.

FX
- Echoing my comments on BB, on first impression, the gymnasts deserve better choreography.
- Firstly, why are all of them performing to the same, interchangeable dated electro music?
- I don't get a sense of story or character from these routines, which again is what sets OK and UCLA apart. Even if the choreo is not great, choosing unique music can do so much heavy lifting in terms of presentation.
- Not sure if it's the best idea to have Gunther do a legacy routine.
- Tumbling-wise, I was pleasantly surprised! Esp with the DLO from Edwards and double arabian from Gunther. Johnson's full in was monstrous.



I actually agree mostly with you.

Depth on vault is a concern pending the status of Kai (which I recently heard great news about). Losing Ferrer hurts the depth. One girl we did not see at 101 due to LSU being precautionary is Kamryn Ryan, who was top 4 at JO Nationals on vault. She is most likely filling in that last spot with Kai. Very good vaulter. The depth behind it is a concern though. LSU currently has Sami Durante and Desiderio moving over to vault to add more depth at. this time. Kai has a 10.0 vault but I doubt we see it early. I think the lineup with Ryan, Ruby, Kai, Edwards, Kiya and Edney is a very strong rotation but the girls behind them are a bit of a drop off at this time.

Bars is similar to vault where depth becomes a big issue once we get outside the scope of the top 6 bar workers. I am fine with Kiya going first as she does bare minimum difficulty (outside the double layout) and she is super clean. She will move towards the end of the lineup once she adds in a release move.She does not have the difficulty to be anchoring bars at this time. Kai's bars are going to be great but I wonder if they want to stay with that much difficulty early. Getting Alyona back is the game changer here. LSU misses the seniors the most on this event.

Beam is pretty strong but I still have issues with the amount of difficulty LSU is doing. We are going well and beyond what is required to just start at a 10. I will be honest, the front tuck scares the hell out of me. Its a skill that even elites have issues with at times. We may be pushing the envelope too much early with Kiya's. beam difficulty. Not that she can't do it, but there is an incredible amount of room for things to go wrong with the amount of difficulty she is going. I am hoping we see Kai and Alyona step up here as I get a bit concerned with Dean's constant form breaks and questionable leaps. D'Antonio has potential, I just saw mostly nerves on Friday which is to be expected. Beam choreography outside a select view is a bit stiff and robotic for my personal liking. Desiderio and Campbell have beautiful flow to their routines.

Floor, I am a bit disappointed with music choices and choreography. I feel like we got lazy and repetitive on this event with similar music and choreography. Recycling Ewing's routine was pure laziness. Gunter has a legit shot to break a floor lineup with how she is progressing and with Desiderio struggling a bit with her 2nd and 3rd passes in practice. They should have given her new material. Desiderio's floor music is god awful and I am not sure how that got approved. As for the tumbling itself, we are extremely deep on this event. Kai and Ryan are great floor workers and were with held along with Ruby. The E passes for everyone were superb. I think we can go 8 deep here with minimal drop off with a couple routines.
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