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re: Economies and Darwinism - Socialism vs Capitalism - EU vs US - 2012 vs 2019
Posted on 4/4/19 at 1:11 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/4/19 at 1:11 pm to NC_Tigah
I can't read the article because it is behind a paywall, so you might need to quote it to relay your point. But having universal healthcare isn't necessarily socialism. You have a wide variety of models on the continent, from Germany's Bismarck model (where they have around 200 healthcare insurance companies, called Krakenkassen I think) uses private insurance, subsidized through employers in the statutory health insurance system, while it also has a much smaller substitutive private health insurance. Countries like France follow a similar Bismarck model with private doctors treating patients who buy their own employer-subsidized healthcare. That differs from the Beveridge model employed in the UK and Italy (I believe), and the Nordic countries, which is free at the point of service with direct government control . The key element of European health systems that do employ private insurance schemes is that those insurance companies have to be non-profit and are required by law to cover everyone.
What other features of the EU is socialist? Norway is heavily involved in oil production, but it isn't necessarily state-owned, as the Norwegian government was explicit when oil was discovered in the Barents Sea that one company (in this case Phillips) could not have singular rights to the oil, as Phillips wanted, and it would have to be multiple companies under close supervision of the Norwegian government.
What other features of the EU is socialist? Norway is heavily involved in oil production, but it isn't necessarily state-owned, as the Norwegian government was explicit when oil was discovered in the Barents Sea that one company (in this case Phillips) could not have singular rights to the oil, as Phillips wanted, and it would have to be multiple companies under close supervision of the Norwegian government.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 1:49 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:But you can say socialized medicine isn't socialized?
I can't read the article
quote:The countries within the EU would obviously be the point of debate there.
What other features of the EU is socialist?
In general though, European GovernmentSpending-to-GDP approaches 50%. That's around 2 1/2 times US spending-to-GDP. It's actually far more if we discount the amount we are covering in defense spending ... no small point as Europe relies heavily on US military power and spending for their own safety.
quote:First off, Norway is not a part of the EU. But It's spending-to-GDP is 50%. If you want to argue that is not socialism exemplified, then we'll simply have to disagree.
What other features of the EU is socialist? Norway is . . .
But IAW your posts and focus on private industry (no matter the tax and/or control), I suppose there is private enterprise in Venezuela as well.
So perhaps socialism doesn't even exist.
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