re: The Case Against Adnan Syed - HBO-

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Only if you believe Jay and the cops can be trusted, which I don’t

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I just cannot understand this mindset.

The Innocence Project claims that only 2-5 percent of people incarcerated are innocent, and those are the most inflated numbers imaginable given their mission.

Of that let’s say 3% of all convictions such a miniscule fraction of that would be because of willful misconduct or active “framing” by police that it isn’t even worth considering unless there are zero other alternatives.

It simply isn’t common yet so many people are always so eager to jump to that conclusion.


Tell me why you believe Jay would stick to this cover up now, when he would be an absolute superstar and likely get a million dollar book deal if he revealed the cover up now rather than the murderer these productions have tried to paint him as??

And you realize at the time he testified he had signed an agreement to serve two years in DOC? Do you know how much weed this 17 year old would have had to be dealing to get two years DOC??

He wasn’t getting off Scott free athough a judge later went against that recommendation and gave him probation.

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If the Christy story is bogus, and happened on a different day, which it likely is and did

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“Likely did”??

Man, you have just totally swallowed everything these storytellers are selling you.

You think Christy, 20 years later, and under the pressure of knowing that virtually the entire country wants Adnan freed, saying oh yeah I had class that day I guess I wasn’t watching Judge Judy like I’ve said for the past 20 years is convincing???


You don’t think she knew she had class when the police first interviewed her like a month after it happened??

The girl had zero reason to lie, and like another poster said the cell records show that Adnan’s phone called Stephanie the day Hae went missing. Adnan didn’t call Stephanie, Jay did.

The days were NOT uncertain 20 years ago and they only appear so now because these very skilled and motivated storytellers have spent years throwing out as many alternate theories and timelines so that no one can even keep straight what was actually said or not anymore.


Jay and the other witnesses’ stories don’t “keep changing”. The two girls never did. But today when these producers put all these things in front of them they say oh yeah that’s weird it doesn’t make sense I guess. Partly because they don’t want to be the assholes in Baltimore that keep poor Adnan locked up, and partly because they just don’t give a shite.

These girls didn’t know Hae, didn’t even really know Adnan, and haven’t known Jay in decades. WTF do they care? This hasn’t consumed their lives and probably haven’t even thought about it again until Serial came out.


As has been said, these productions are giving you tiny snippets of a six month trial that took a jury less than two hours to convict.

The cell phone records evidence is unreliable because of the incoming calls!!!!

What about the outgoing calls in the minutes before and after those unreliable calls?? Any thoughts as to why the producers didn’t address that in their presentations??

Use your own critical thinking skills to analyze what they are, and more importantly what they ARENT, telling you.


We keep hearing about the “state’s timeline”. I can without the slightest doubt tell you that there is ZERO percent chance the State says the murder HAD TO happen by 2:36, like these productions claim. There was another outgoing call like half an hour later and no sensible attorney would pigeonhole themselves into a timeline like that. Think about it, why on Earth would they do that???


As for Jay’s “changing story”, he addressed his three statements on the stand and the jury found him believable. The big change, where he saw the body, was to protect his grandmother.


The other changes were far less material and either didn’t change anything or are explained by his unwillingness to be open with police until he was sure they weren’t going to go after him for the weed charges.


I’m not sure how much you deal in the criminal justice system but details in witness statements change ALL THE TIME in virtually EVERY CASE.

This isn’t some novel and unique aspect of this case.


But the foundation of Jay knowing where the car was, combined with the cell records, the witness statements (the original statements and testimony not the muddied up versions these productions have created decades later), Adnan’s own inability to account for his whereabouts at the key moments of the day, with the uncontroverted fact that he called Hae the night before she went missing (he says to tell her he may need a ride) even though they were broken up for weeks (and even though he never called her again despite all of her other friends calling her nonstop after they found out she was missing), provide a strong enough case to convict, and the jury was convinced beyond a reasonable doubt after hearing ALL of the evidence admitted.



As someone else said, the simplest answer is usually the most likely.

But go ahead and continue choosing to believe that police, mean men that give us speeding tickets and break up high school parties when we are kids, are just bad people always out to set up innocents and take away freedoms of anyone that fits their agenda just to clear a case