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re: Rand will vote to BLOCK Trump ED on border funding.

Posted on 3/3/19 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262895 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Do your job (they don’t), stand with the President,


Just curious, what do you think the purpose of Congress is?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
34127 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 1:42 pm to
An easier way to explain the stance is this. If Rands decision herre and this vote stopped Trump and also enacted rules to prevent this from being used by any President in the future, I’d stand with him.

But pretending, in the current state of the Democratic Party, that these “principled” and diversified opinions will somehow rub off on them is laughable.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53531 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 1:47 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber



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Why did he have to declare a national emergency?


It would appear to get military help to speed up the process.


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Where's the money coming from?


From LawFare


How Congress and President Obama Made Trump’s Wall Possible


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Throughout the 2016 election, Donald Trump campaigned for president on the promise that he would build a wall along the southern border. Six weeks after his election in November 2016, Congress overwhelmingly passed a statute—codified as 10 U.S.C § 284—that authorized the secretary of defense to support the “construction of roads and fences and installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States.” On Dec. 23, 2016, a month before leaving office, President Obama signed the 973-page bill into law without any objection to this provision.


It's a misconception here that he used a single NE in order to get funds. He did not. He took 3 separate actions.

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Specifically, the president identified up to $2.5 billion under the Department of Defense funds that were designated for counterdrug activities. This provision does not turn on the declaration of a national emergency pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 2808, which the president also invoked in a proclamation issued the same day.
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