Just finished it. I really enjoyed it, though it is admittedly uneven at times. But what I like best is the false thread of Episode 6 which begs the question:

If Five never tries to interfere and just lets things continue how they were going in Episode 6, does the Apocalypse occur? It is possible that the events of the season finale were entirely caused by his meddling. If he just stays away at that point and doesn't rewind the clock, almost every character gets a happy ending and Seven never becomes the White Violin because she finds the book long before its too late, and returns to her family having not harmed anyone yet.

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Posted by wildtigercat93

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Posted on 3/4/19 at 11:24 am to Baloo

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If Five never tries to interfere and just lets things continue how they were going in Episode 6, does the Apocalypse occur? It is possible that the events of the season finale were entirely caused by his meddling. If he just stays away at that point and doesn't rewind the clock, almost every character gets a happy ending and Seven never becomes the White Violin because she finds the book long before its too late, and returns to her family having not harmed anyone yet.

Yeah he deffinitly had a strong hand in creating the apocalypse

Like I mentioned earlier, time travel is always messy and this show certainly dove face first into the mess, but you could argue the main reason he was pulled out by the Handlers was because they knew it was how they made the apocalypse happen and if he chooses to stay then it creates a paradox in a way.

But again time travel like this never holds up to scutiny and basically it’s plot armor that you just have to accept and watch

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Posted by FearlessFreep

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Posted on 3/8/19 at 6:49 pm to Baloo

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If Five never tries to interfere and just lets things continue how they were going in Episode 6, does the Apocalypse occur? It is possible that the events of the season finale were entirely caused by his meddling. If he just stays away at that point and doesn't rewind the clock, almost every character gets a happy ending and Seven never becomes the White Violin because she finds the book long before its too late, and returns to her family having not harmed anyone yet.

Just finished last night, and really enjoyed it despite a few obvious time-travel related flaws.

I think your theory has some merit, but it seems that the entire point of the series is that the apocalypse HAS to happen, and Vanya/Seven has to bring it about - the whole idea the Handler had about bringing Five back to the Commission was to prevent him from preventing his sister from becoming the White Violin and destroying the world, so somehow she would have managed to do so without his interference in the timeline. Remember, when he initially jumped in time to just after the apocalypse he found all of his siblings' bodies EXCEPT for Seven.

Pretty clever, even though it was predictable at times. Looking forward to seeing what they can do in season 2, and what plot device they will use to return the UA kids to their adult forms.

And yes, as good a character (and actor) as Five was, Klaus/Four was even better.