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re: National debt tops $22 trillion for the first time as experts warn of ripple effects

Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:17 pm to
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So yes... let’s blame republicans for what they hypothetical might have done instead of Obama for what he actually did. Makes perfect sense.





Dude shortyrob just went on a rant about how republicans hypothetically spend less than democrats do. You guys say all the time that they do (even when they don't). Hence this line.

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You do realize the ARRA included huge payroll tax cuts right?



Yes, hence the use of the word more to indicate more of something that already was in the bill

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Of course not. You’ve made up a hypothetical in your head. That’s kinda like evidence, eh?




Once again, I didn't bring up fricking hypotheticals. I am giving you my opinion because you guys have given me yours. I asked shortyrob to produce evidence of republicans controlling spending and you know what he gave me? Hypotheticals.

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Oddly no one does this for Reagan, who arguably had a worse economic situation that had been lagging far longer. Nor do you do it for Bush43 who had a recession in 2001-2003. You’re exposed as f*ck.





You're comparing 2008 to Reagan and GHWB's admins. Wow.

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So increase of 5% with declining deficits, and a growing economy. And you’re accusing others of not viewing thing in economic contests? k.



The deficit did not decline between 2005 and 2006. You are mistaken.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 4:30 pm to
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Dude shortyrob just went on a rant about how republicans hypothetically spend less than democrats do
1/ whataboutism at its finest. 2/ you’re substituting a hypothetical for reality.

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Once again, I didn't bring up fricking hypotheticals.
No one typed your words for you as AFAIK. ShortyRob didn’t make you do that.

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You're comparing 2008 to Reagan and GHWB's admins. Wow.
Yeah. I am. You should have a look at employment patterns, fiscal policy, and the effects of outside borrowers. The US was GREATLY aided in 2008-2010 by the rest of the world flight to safety of the US Treasury. Your illiteracy is hampering you.

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The deficit did not decline between 2005 and 2006. You are mistaken.
It most certainly did.

Deficits
2004 -$412B
2005 -$318B
2006 -$248B
2007 -$160B


This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 5:05 pm to
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I asked shortyrob to produce evidence of republicans controlling spending and you know what he gave me? Hypotheticals

Well this is just false.

I said a majority of democrats favor several massive expansions on spending. That's not even debatable.

But I never said that Republicans are good at controlling spending. I said that at least there are some repeat some repeat some since you're stupid as frick repeats some Republicans who are actually for reducing spending but there are zero Democrats

and I pointed out that at the least the Republicans aren't favoring massive new entitlement programs and massive new discretionary spending. Also both undisputedly true

You might want to try again
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