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re: Raymond to interview at uga

Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:11 pm to
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Giving Raymond credit for a player that SIGNED with LSU in 2013 is nonsensical. That's brilliant.

How is it nonsencial. Was White ever going anywhere else? He's an in-state guy, an LSU legacy, and committed before Raymond was hired. That's why I said it's not even worth the time to argue with you about it. You're trying to find ways to give Raymond credit for something he didn't create.
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Not on a roster.

Yes, he is.
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Really solid job in this thread so far.


I know, right. In this thread, you have shown that Raymond did not create DBU, that Cooper still has a ton of guys playing in the NFL from his days at LSU 7 years later, and that the world, in fact, did not end when Cooper left. And in the process, crawfished all the way into a new argument because you couldn't dig your way out of the first one.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:14 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:14 pm to
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How is it nonsencial. Was White ever cgoing anywhere else. He's an in-state guy, an LSU legacy, and committed before Raymond was hired. That's why I said it's not even worth the time to argue with you about it. You're trying to find ways to give Raymond credit for something he didn't create.


You're right. I'm giving Raymond credit for landing a defensive back in the 2013 class that he was one of the primary recruiters for.

How crazy.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65992 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:15 pm to
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I'm giving Raymond credit for landing a defensive back in the 2013 class that he was one of the primary recruiters fo

You're giving Raymond credit for landing a guy he, in fact, didn't land. Did I not predict you going down this rabbit hole or what?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:17 pm to
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you have shown that Raymond did not create DBU


Never said he did. I said he helped create the moniker, which is true.

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that Cooper still has a ton of guys playing in the NFL from his days at LSU 7 years later,


Ron Cooper was one of the best when here. No one has denied this.

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and that the world, in fact, did not end when Cooper left.


No one said it did. This doesn't change the fact that potentially replacing the best DB coach in the country isn't something to be concerned with. I really am sorry it bothers you so much that other LSU fans don't want Raymond to leave. It's a weird thing to melt over

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But you do you bud


Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:18 pm to
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You're giving Raymond credit for landing a guy he, in fact, didn't land. Did I not predict you going down this rabbit hole or what?


Tre White signed in 2013. I don't really care when he committed. Committing to a school means next to nothing until the LOI is signed. He also spent all 4 years of his college career with Raymond as his coach.

So, yes, I give Corey Raymond 100% of the credit for him.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:21 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65992 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:23 pm to
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I don't really care when he committed.

of course you don't, because it kills your argument
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:26 pm to
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of curse you don't, because it kills your argument


In no way does the day he committed kill my argument. He signed with LSU when Raymond was here and was coached for 4 years by him. He's listed as an Ensminger and Raymond recruit on 247.

You not giving him credit is a weird hill to die on. Especially since you keep listing Patrick Peterson as one of Cooper's "guys".
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Sampson
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:27 pm to
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It happens all the time.


Yeah a DB coach that has been at his alma mater for 7 straight years churning out first rounders and was their when Peterson was recruited/played in 07-08. Happens all the time.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:28 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65992 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:27 pm to
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I said he helped create the moniker, which is true.


no
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Ron Cooper was one of the best when here. No one has denied this.


You may not have directly denied it but you sure as hell have tried to minimize what he did
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This doesn't change the fact that potentially replacing the best DB coach in the country isn't something to be concerned with.

It shouldn't be a major concern
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I really am sorry it bothers you so much that other LSU fans don't want Raymond to leave

No, what bothers is me is people like you who any time anything happens, whether it be this or something else, will act like we're fricked, Orgeron sucks, start creating all sorts of theories as to why or what is happening behind the scenes. It's complete lunacy. And I don;t expect you to see it that way because it's not like you to ever admit you may be on the wrong side of an argument.
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It's a weird thing to melt over

And I'll say it's really weird to melt over a replaceable position coach leaving who hasn't even left.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:33 pm to
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You may not have directly denied it but you sure as hell have tried to minimize what he did


Saying Raymond is a good coach in no way minimizes what Cooper did. Not even a little bit.

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It shouldn't be a major concern




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No, what bothers is me is people like you who any time anything happens, whether it be this or something else, will act like we're fricked, Orgeron sucks, start creating all sorts of theories as to why or what is happening behind the scenes. It's complete lunacy. And I don;t expect you to see it that way because it's not like you to ever admit you may be on the wrong side of an argument


I haven't said a word about Orgeron or even hinted that LSU will suck. Now you're throwing a new bitch fit over something that wasn't even said.


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And I'll say it's really weird to melt over a replaceable position coach leaving who hasn't even left.


Being concerned about a coach possibly leaving is better than losing your shite over other people being concerned about a coach possibly leaving. It's not even particularly close.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17250 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:34 pm to
only Cregg and Robinson make more than Raymond

I think both are overpaid as coaches only when compared to Raymond
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Yeah a DB coach that has been at his alma mater for 7 straight years churning out first rounders and was their when Peterson was recruited/played in 07-08. Happens all the time.


Nah man. Raymond is a scrub who's easily replaceable.

Just ask lsufball19.
Posted by 251Tiger
Member since Aug 2018
536 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:37 pm to
Raymond is a valuable coach,and I never understood why Robinson makes more (way).Hope we can keep him.If he chooses to go Ron Cooper is at Arkansas..I thought they were better at getting their heads around,and locating the ball when he was here.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65992 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:39 pm to
Oh god...you are one of the most intellectually dishonest posters on this site.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Oh god...you are one of the most intellectually dishonest posters on this site.


Says the guy claiming Corey Raymond doesn't deserve credit for a player he signed and coached for 4 years just to try and make a point that he's replaceable.

Take this bullshite somewhere else.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65992 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:46 pm to
You take your bullshite elsewhere. You’re still trying to say Raymond created DBU for Christ sake. You’re a clown, always have been. Anything to denigrate the program in any way, you will go balls deep in that argument. You aren’t truly happy unless something is wrong. I never see you posting in threads when something good happens unless it is to somehow minimize how good that thing actually is/was.

I do have a question for you, though. Is it not exhausting being unhappy all the time? If you hate LSU so much, why do you waste your time on here?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45017 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:48 pm to
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You’re still trying to say Raymond created DBU for Christ sake.


When you produce multiple 1st round defensive backs, you are helping build the DBU moniker and legacy. That's correct.

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You’re a clown, always have been. Anything to denigrate the program in any way, you will go balls deep in that argument.




You're right. Me saying Raymond is a good coach and not wanting him to leave is denigrating the program. Solid logic.

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I do have a question for you, though. Is it not exhausting being unhappy all the time? If you hate LSU so much, why do you waste your time on here?


You're melting like a bitch because other people don't like seeing Raymond interviewing for other positions with other programs. You don't really have room to talk about how unhappy someone else is.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted by AugieDog
Metairie ,La
Member since Feb 2017
139 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:08 pm to
Corey Raymond is the Dr. of DBU .. Oreo should appreciate the help from MR. Busch (safeties) nd that allows him to focus more on the corners . I think this is an Aranda move to bring in his own people .
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30684 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:12 pm to
Jalen Mills was recruited by cooper
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30684 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 8:15 pm to
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only Cregg and Robinson make more


And here’s your problem. What have they done to warrant such salaries besides being at USC with O and getting friendship salaries?

Neither has put out a 1st round pick or landed a 5 star.
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