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re: "Western Civilization" has demonstrated its superiority in many areas

Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:38 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:38 am to
In that sense we do agree. I find it extremely weird people use frameworks developed by philosophers responding to either historical problems or ones developed in responses to linguistic issues, all of which occurred because they were allowed to be free-thinkers in a Western society, as a way of attacking that society. Fundamentally, those attacks, as we know, aren't in good faith, which reveals their true intentions.

That's the essential problem. If anyone reads Adorno, Derrida, Marcuse, or whoever is included in these "Cultural Marxists," their arguments are in good faith, in response to problems they see. One could argue that they are mistaken, wrong, myopic, but I don't see how you could take an argument about a specific thing, apply it to a larger thing, and then write of the entire group because of it. They are doing literally the same thing that they accuse racists of doing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:41 am to
just so that everyone understands, i'm currently listening to this, so i'm primal and ready to rumble
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:42 am to
quote:

I find it extremely weird people use frameworks developed by philosophers responding to either historical problems or ones developed in responses to linguistic issues

linguistic power is a major focal area for the Big Left

why Ace even could comment about how "Western Civilization" could be construed as racist

that also plays into both the attack on fundamental freedoms as well as the lack of any actual critique. it's all linguistic power

hell even "Cultural Marxist", due to a couple youtube videos, is now seen as dog whistling for antisemitism
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:44 am to
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One could argue that they are mistaken, wrong, myopic, but I don't see how you could take an argument about a specific thing, apply it to a larger thing, and then write of the entire group because of it.

You can take the work of anyone and use it nefariously. Religious texts have been used as such for thousands of years.
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