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m willing to bet more film gurus would say Beauty and the Beast was Disney’s greatest masterpiece, in addition to Snow White, Pinocchio, and Sleeping Beauty being higher than the Lion King. BatB was nominated for Best Picture, which no animated film had done at the time, and that was also when it was limited to 5 films.

I think there's a difference. Beauty praised for songs...same with Lion King but Beauty really was a song and dance number...people love that. Plus it apes Phantom which everyone has loved for 40 fricking years.

I don't think there's anything special about the story or animation in Beauty. It just has songs people loved at the time but haven't aged all that well.

Yeah definitely the old ones, they were hand drawn and took forever to make.

They were like paintings. Look at the end scene of Fox and the Hound. (and yes, I'm beating that to death) because it was a little more emotional than Lion King and had classic animation.

Beauty was the changing of the guard where Disney basically sold out from their heritage and went full commercial. Maybe that's why people love it.

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Posted by OMLandshark

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Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa

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I don't think there's anything special about the story or animation in Beauty. It just has songs people loved at the time but haven't aged all that well.

I really think BatB turned Disney on its head. Sure The Little Mermaid happened and started the Disney Renaissance, but I don’t think you could tell that story verbatim these days without everyone realizing Ariel is a dumb slut that jeopardizes the world. The Little Mermaid really took everything that worked for old Disney and nearly perfected it save for the protagonist, which they got shite for at the time.

But in Beauty and the Beast, Belle is treated like a real intelligent person and is given courage not to be looking for another man but a greater purpose. Belle is the type of girl every father would want, while Ariel is the type of girl every father wouldn’t want. Gaston is probably the first Disney villain that you actually know in real life (save for the hunter in Bambi (Crackpot: who may actually be Gaston) and Lady Tremaine), which makes him all the more effective when he transforms into a monster as the film progresses.

And this was undersold until recently, but it’s a perfectly paced movie. There are few movies as perfectly paced as this, and it is the remake’s biggest failure. If you change one thing in it, then the pacing is off and you don’t buy it anymore. It’s a movie you can’t change anything about. I really think it’s a perfect movie.

And name the song that hasn’t aged well in Beauty and the Beast. Listen to “Can You Feel the Love Tonight” and tell me with a straight face that it’s better than a single Beauty and the Beast song.

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Posted by Pectus

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Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:58 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa

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Beauty was the changing of the guard where Disney basically sold out from their heritage and went full commercial. Maybe that's why people love it.

To me, that is what happened with Lion King. Success of celeb voice in Aladdin was their new model and they went all out with those for Lion King. That is where they sold out.

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