re: How many losses does Patrick mahomes get to become MVP?

KC was great last year without Mahomes, and Henne is a good QB and former starter in this league. Andy Reid’s offense is great for QBs and always has been. He makes a valid point. I don’t think you can definitively say that the Saints are better off without Brees than KC is without Mahomes.

And the stat argument is weak. If our defense was dog shite and Brees had to throw as much as Mahomes, the stats would be about the same. Their passer ratings show us this.