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re: What would’ve happened if Britain had surrendered in WWII?

Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by Loaner1231
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 9:51 pm to
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the US would have had all of its might in the pacific, quickly ending the war against Japan.


Another interesting though is the timeline for American victory in the Pacific. Would the full force of the American ground forces speed up victory in that theatre? If so, how many more casualties do the Americans suffer in the Pacific by having to attack the main island with an amphibious assault? In this scenario the timeline for the Manhattan project remains unchanged.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Another interesting though is the timeline for American victory in the Pacific. Would the full force of the American ground forces speed up victory in that theatre? If so, how many more casualties do the Americans suffer in the Pacific by having to attack the main island with an amphibious assault? In this scenario the timeline for the Manhattan project remains unchanged.


IYAM the German threat would still loom on the other side of the Atlantic. Maybe moreso than in our timeline. We would put tremendous resources into defending the East Coast, Iceland, Greenland, Cuba and the Carribean. South America, with its large German populations in Brazil, Argentina, and other countries, would be a Cold War focal point that may turn hot. As long as Japan didnt directly threaten our interests, they may have had a green light in the Pacific.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Another interesting though is the timeline for American victory in the Pacific. Would the full force of the American ground forces speed up victory in that theatre? If so, how many more casualties do the Americans suffer in the Pacific by having to attack the main island with an amphibious assault? In this scenario the timeline for the Manhattan project remains unchanged.


to expand on this, i dont think there would be much of a difference except in the resources devoted. the pacific war was almost exclusively a naval and marine war. the war in europe was almost exclusively an army war. they dont have much cross over that would swing the other way.

as for the Manhattan project, it wasnt doing well and only had success after we spirited out german scientists and data to give us our "break through". if we arent involved in the war in europe, we dont bring in those scientist to help us or the research data needed to solve the puzzle. without what we got from germany, it takes us at least another 2-3 years to get the bomb, by then the war in pacific is over.

in contrast we "barely" beat germany in getting the bomb and we ONLY achieved that through our massive war efforts directed specifically just to slow them down. germany would have had the bomb about the same time we got it but in that situation we would still be 2-3 years from getting there.
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