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re: Goldman Sachs believes the US economy will slow to a crawl next year

Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:49 am to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:49 am to
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well let's see some examples of all these egregiously bad projections,


Well just that little fact that they would have either ceased to exist or been seriously hobbled without taxpayer funded bailouts due to their underwriting of loans and mortgages by people with crap credit. And then misleading investors while doing it.

Trump will be terrible for stocks in 2017

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Goldman Sachs Says Donald Trump Will Be Terrible for Stocks in 2017


Only a minor boost from tax cuts

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Goldman Sachs predicts only minor boost from Trump’s tax cuts


Tax cuts no big boost for economy

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Goldman Sachs doesn't think the Republican tax bill would be a big boost to the US economy


Tax cuts could cause recession

Trumps policy’s will cause higher unemployment, inflation, and a slower economy

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In a note on Monday, Goldman economists Sven Jari Stehn and Alec Phillips argued that Trump’s economic policies could bring about both higher inflation, more unemployment, and a slower economy—largely due to the president-elect’s promise to pair more spending with protectionism, both of which have the potential to significantly increase prices, Bloomberg reported.


And on and on and on and on.


Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:07 am to
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Trump will be terrible for stocks in 2017


not an economic forecast and not from their macroeconomic forecasting unit
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Only a minor boost from tax cuts

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Tax cuts no big boost for economy

both very much in line with the mainstream, and already appearing to be shown to be correct, if you actually take 5 seconds to look at what they actually said
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argued that Trump’s economic policies could bring about both higher inflation, more unemployment, and a slower economy—largely due to the president-elect’s promise to pair more spending with protectionism

we argue that about excessive government spending all the time! protectionism necessarily does that as well, if it's effective.

but to the point of it being a bad prediction, that is part of a general criticism of trump's general plans from before he was even inaugurated.

so to recap, on the tax cuts, they're right so far, and weren't out on a limb to begin with. on the subject of this thread- their projections of growth in the economy- i'll note you didn't even bring an example of their past projections for comparison. and what they said about the eventual effects of increasing spending + protectionism are correct. you did link something that one of their units said about stocks which was wildly wrong- but sorry, the stock market isn't the economy. and this doesn't support your sweeping allegations about their projections for "the trump economy"

really, you just don't like the gdp numbers they project. like i said, they strike me as a tad too pessimistic too


ETA: i just realized, one of those articles you linked did show that they had a pretty decent projection for 2017 RGDP growth of 2.1%. Turned out to be 2.2%
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:13 am
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