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re: Belgium A5 Info

Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by BorrisMart
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Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:51 pm to
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I have a Jap May 12 that had a fixed full choke. Gunsmith opened to a “loose” modified. Works great. Killed a limit of ducks with it this morning.



bumping this ancient thread, rather than making one. I'm getting mixed results online. For a 1985 Japanese Mag 12 with a 32" barrel that has ["special steel 2 3/4" -3"] stamped on the barrel right after the engraving is that referring to steel loads or the steel the gun is made with? Lots of people online in other threads/sites were going back and forth on whether it was just is referring to the steel used on the receiver and/or barrel or whether it was steel shot ready.

it doesn't have choke threads and im guessing 32" is full choke. I was always under the impression the Belgiums were the ones you weren't "supposed" to shoot steel shot with without modifying to a new barrel but the Japanese ones were fine, but 1985 was before the lead ban so it gives me pause.

So @dwr353 you still had to have them modify the barrel? As posted here, I know you can get newer barrels but the barrel is pristine on this and 32" barrels just seem awesome as an occasional duck gun. If all else itll just be a project gun or one more for the collection, but this place seems to have all the answers.
This post was edited on 6/11/23 at 12:53 pm
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 2:06 pm to
Browning stamped Special Steel to indicate premium steel the barrels were made of, not steel shot safe. My Mag 12 was Japanese made and had harder barrels than Belgian. My gunsmith claimed if you used smaller shot sizes you "should" be ok shooting in the full choke. I had mine opened up to Skeet 2 and hunted with it for 20 years with no barrel issues. I personally would not use steel in the Belgian barrel especially Full. Carson's Barrels on the web has used barrels for sale. The inventory changes as to what he gets in. What you have may be perfect for Bismuth as it usually works better with tight choke constrictions. I tried 20 gauge Boss shells last year and was very pleased with their performance. I got in a case of Boss 16 gauge shells last week to use in my Sweet 16 and my old Winchester Model 12 in 16 gauge. Congrats on having the best semiautomatic shotgun ever made!
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14240 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 5:25 pm to
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doesn't have choke threads and im guessing 32" is full choke.
will have an asterisk, or two, or other symbol(s) denoting choke.

The rule of thumb on the fixed choke A5 is mod or more open, no larger than 2 steel, I would shoot 4 steel and do.
This post was edited on 6/11/23 at 5:27 pm
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