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Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:37 pm to Zach
Posted on 11/2/18 at 12:37 pm to Zach
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I don't believe anyone should be denied insurance for pre-existing conditions. But it should be determined by the market.
IE, suppose Zach is 35, a non-smoker and is 5-2, 410 pounds. I apply for health insurance. I receive it. But my premiums will be $2,000 a month. If I don't want to pay then I have chosen to go without health insurance. It's all about freedom.
Let's take a harder example. A person has tons of health problems growing up while on parents' insurance plan. Comes of age and has to get own coverage. Insurer says their coverage will be 5 times the average, making it impossible to afford.
Should there be a provision for that situation or is that person just SOL?
Honestly just curious.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 1:21 pm to cahoots
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Let's take a harder example. A person has tons of health problems growing up while on parents' insurance plan. Comes of age and has to get own coverage. Insurer says their coverage will be 5 times the average, making it impossible to afford. Should there be a provision for that situation or is that person just SOL?
SOL. It is not my responsibility to pay for the problems of another. It is not your responsibility to pay for mine. Medicare did not always exist. People lived their lives. Charity intervened. Family intervened. Or no one did. The state intervening is theft and it is the natural course of govt.
Posted on 11/2/18 at 2:48 pm to cahoots
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Let's take a harder example. A person has tons of health problems growing up while on parents' insurance plan. Comes of age and has to get own coverage. Insurer says their coverage will be 5 times the average, making it impossible to afford.
Should there be a provision for that situation or is that person just SOL?
Honestly just curious.
Not a great example honestly. In the insurance world, companies have look back periods, and specifically to P&C insurance world, they have CLUE reports. It's basically an underwriter looking at claims that have been made over the past 2, 5, 10 or however many years. In the life world, they look at Rx history and information from the Medical Information Board for however many look back years they use. Health Insurers cannot do this.
Generally, insurance companies set rates based on the likelihood they will have to pay a covered loss. So yes, if someone has been to the ER 7 times in the past 5 years, he should pay more for health insurance than someone of the same age/gender who has not been.
The best way to prevent this person from having rates 5x the average is to let the Insurance Companies establish huge homogeneous groups of people like your example so they can collectively pay less rates together.
Obamacare prevents this.
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