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re: How will the United States end?

Posted on 9/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
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This isn't going to be very popular, but I don't think Obama was that bad of a president.


He made us vastly weaker on pretty much every facet of this country.

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He is someone whose mother, who was born in Kansas, met Obama Sr at the University of Hawaii. They married, had Barack, not long after the two divorced and his dad went back to Kenya. He met his dad once, but I don't think he wanted much to do with him. And he was raised by white grandparents in Hawaii.


What the frick does that have to do with his presidency?

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I think he was elected sometime during the 90s. Then he became US Senator.. So he had political experience. He has a law degree from Harvard.


Did he ever practice in law? No, he went straight into politics. He’s literally never done anything in his adult life other than politic. And he’s not even that good of one.

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And the whole "Obamacare", it's far from perfect. But I know people who benefitted from it.


Hey that’s great, frick the whole country for a couple people!

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I think foreign relations was his strong suit, but people acts like the dude was the anti-christ.


Dude that was his weakest area by far, we were walked all over by every other country. That’s why all the countries hate us now, we have a president who isn’t a flaming vagina apologizing to every other country in the world like he did. He brought us down multiple pegs in regards to our standing in the world.

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A year before he took office the economy was headed down the wrong path and then it started to snowball. By that October everyone was panicking. So if you compare where things were when he took office to where they were when he left, technically he left things in better shape than they were when he first took office.


Yeah the stimulus packages and auto bailouts really helped us out. His economic policy was always more government, less private sector.

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There really isn't anything Obama did that made the country worse.


You seriously don’t believe this do you?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114123 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 2:25 pm to
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He made us vastly weaker on pretty much every facet of this country.


Can you provide concrete facts to prove this?

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What the frick does that have to do with his presidency?


I should have been more clear on that, but I was addressing the situation in which a lot of people believed he was a Muslim with a personal agenda... Those who thought he was not even a US citizen, etc..

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Did he ever practice in law? No, he went straight into politics. He’s literally never done anything in his adult life other than politic. And he’s not even that good of one.



A simple google search will give you this information.

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In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2007.


But even if he didn't practice. And this goes for anyone who is a president, senator, representative, etc.. Someone with a law degree is more likely to understand policies and law making in general, than someone without a law degree.

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Hey that’s great, frick the whole country for a couple people!


Like I said, it far from perfect. But before Obamacare, one of the biggest complaints about health care was that something needed to be done. Change was needed. At least he was trying to make some changes. The healthcare bill that was approved, was the final product of compromises from both sides.

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Dude that was his weakest area by far, we were walked all over by every other country. That’s why all the countries hate us now, we have a president who isn’t a flaming vagina apologizing to every other country in the world like he did. He brought us down multiple pegs in regards to our standing in the world.


Do you realize, what makes us the powerful nation we are, is maintaining the type of relationship with other countries that makes them somewhat depended on us? It's a national security issue and we have our eyes and ears to the ground, all over the world, but to have that access, it does come with a cost.

He was trying to establish a better relationship with Cuba that would benefit the US in the long term. It would benefit a lot of US businesses if they were able to start selling their products in Cuba. That relationship was getting better, but that's not even an option anymore.

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Yeah the stimulus packages and auto bailouts really helped us out. His economic policy was always more government, less private sector.



That stimulus package would have been approved no matter who was in the white house. Don't forget, in early 2008, Bush signed.. What? A $160 billion stimulus package hoping to prevent a recession. But somehow Obama's was worse?
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