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re: ESPN reporters pick Week 3 - no one picks LSU

Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:14 am to
Posted by wasteland
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:14 am to
This isn't surprising. I'll always cheer for the win and support LSU but I also am a realist. Is there a worse matchup for us right now other than auburn? I think I'd rather Bama right now. Auburn has possibly the best defensive line in the country and our o line is the glaring weakness for us so far. Plus playing in Auburn? Their picks against us are just logical
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:21 am to
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There are these things called stats and highlights. You should check them out sometime.


Yeah I’m sure Auburn looked pretty good in the highlight reel against an FCS school

I obviously looked at the stats based on my previous comment of them committing 4 turnovers. I also saw half their passing yards came on one play, just like ours. I would venture a guess that they were not challenged running the ball. They will be this week.

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Well isn't that convenient for you.


So you are making an argument that comparing games against in state FCS schools is more comparable than top 10 opponents on a neutral field?

Yes, using logic is a convenience
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:21 am to
They will not believe, like many here.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:24 am to
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Yeah I’m sure Auburn looked pretty good in the highlight reel against an FCS school

I obviously looked at the stats based on my previous comment of them committing 4 turnovers. I also saw half their passing yards came on one play, just like ours. I would venture a guess that they were not challenged running the ball. They will be this week.


But why couldn't we do that? How are you not getting this? They did what they were supposed to, we could not.

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So you are making an argument that comparing games against in state FCS schools is more comparable than top 10 opponents on a neutral field?

Yes, using logic is a convenience


You can't rationally explain away why they scored at will while we could not. Are you seriously not worried by that fact?
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:29 am to
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You don’t get it. This is literally the worst matchup in this series for LSU in many years


In 2010 they had Cam Newton who was the worst matchup for every single team they played against. We hung in that game and played pretty bad.

I’m just not sure I am buying the Auburn hype. You may be right, they may throttle us, but I would think that would mean confirmation that we just aren’t very good. I’m not quite ready to admit that although I know some are.
Posted by Gus007
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:40 am to
Coach O is a shrewd rascal.
Don't show them anything and they never gonna know what hit them.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:43 am to
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Coach O is a shrewd rascal.
Don't show them anything and they never gonna know what hit them.

Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:43 am to
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But why couldn't we do that? How are you not getting this? They did what they were supposed to, we could not.


What’s your point? They ran over a bad defense. That won’t happen this weekend. They will have to rely on their passing game like we will.

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You can't rationally explain away why they scored at will while we could not. Are you seriously not worried by that fact?


Look, you want to take more away from the cupcake games than games against top ranked teams (you know,like this one), that’s your business. The level of preparation will be more similar in those games

Miami beat savanna st (I think) 77-0. They had trouble doing much of anything against us. Did our game give you more of indication on how good they are or did savanna state?



Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:46 am to
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What’s your point? They ran over a bad defense. That won’t happen this weekend. They will have to rely on their passing game like we will.


My point is right fricking in my post and you refuse to answer it. How where they able to do it, while we couldn't manage the same? What about that inspires confidence that we will do anything against them on their field?

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Look, you want to take more away from the cupcake games than games against top ranked teams (you know,like this one), that’s your business. The level of preparation will be more similar in those games

Miami beat savanna st (I think) 77-0. They had trouble doing much of anything against us. Did our game give you more of indication on how good they are or did savanna state?



It says we have an elite defense. We knew that already. The two games together say that our offense is not i a good place. Auburn's previous game shows that they are capable of moving the ball and didn't struggle with obviously weaker competition while we did.

Posted by Dennis4LSU
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 9:59 am to
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really? hmmm... i always thought believing your team could win the big game was called being a fan.
Most the time yes, when a Offence can move the ball on a D1 school. But in this case he was right its blind homerism
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:01 am to
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Any real football reason why they should pick us to beat Auburn in Auburn?

No. There’s not any. Of course these cheeriOs don’t get that.



CheeriOs? I can see how some would DV "CheeriO". But I LIKE the name. I respect Coach Orgeron for many football reasons. And, I have a positive attitude about life in general. And, yes. I think LSU has the defense to hold Auburn to 14 or so. And enough fire power (Offense, Defense, and Special Teams) to score around 24.

Can't imagine having to mope around all day like Linus and his rain cloud. Being confident and content is a choice. It is not something that "just happens" to you.

CheeriO!!! Have a Great day!!!
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 10:07 am
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:06 am to
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While that might prove to hurt us in terms of development, it may also prove that we can continue to score when we need to.


No way you believe that.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:07 am to
I believe it.

Go back and watch the first quarter of both games. It was like the big kids playing against their little cousins.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 10:09 am
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:08 am to
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My point is right fricking in my post and you refuse to answer it.


Easy there. I have answered it several times. We did not play the same team. We both played bad teams. SLU clearly never gave up, I’m not sure when Alabama state did. I’m not going to take away much from those games. I’m sorry that you are so hung up on the games last week.

We were also missing our best OL last week which made a difference. Our depth on the OL is bad and that is indeed alarming. Not sure how traore was so highly recruited.

We ran 15 total plays in the second half. The only thing I take away from that is we were super conservative. I think that was a mistake and should have tried to exercise the offense.

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It says we have an elite defense.


And Alabama state does not. What they did against them is just not that relevant.

Let’s get back on track. Do you think LSU covers the spread? I do. Not sure if we win outright, I think Auburn has shown they are a great team that has finished 2 games while LSU has gotten shy in the second halves of both games and left a bit to the imagination. I really do question how good stidham is, and they will need him to make plays.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:10 am to
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No way you believe that.


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ILeaveAtHalftime


Like you would even know
Posted by BayouBoogie
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:11 am to
Haha. Straight like that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:12 am to
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Easy there. I have answered it several times. We did not play the same team. We both played bad teams. SLU clearly never gave up, I’m not sure when Alabama state did. I’m not going to take away much from those games. I’m sorry that you are so hung up on the games last week.


But why could we not move the ball on them? We are LSU, they shouldn't be able to stop us running straight through them, yet our offense struggled mightily.
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We were also missing our best OL last week which made a difference.


FCS school Our backups should have no issue with this level of opponent.

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We ran 15 total plays in the second half. The only thing I take away from that is we were super conservative.


And also had no success moving the ball, which is my point... again.

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And Alabama state does not. What they did against them is just not that relevant.


It's relevant when you consider that Southeastern also doesn't and we didn't do shite against them.

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Do you think LSU covers the spread? I do.


Oh yay, we lost by less than 10. How comforting .
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:14 am to
Maybe because they haven't seen anything in two games that would make them pick LSU over Barn.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:18 am to
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Oh yay, we lost by less than 10. How comforting .


Answer the question.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:19 am to
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Answer the question.



My prediction is in the thread up top. I think we lose by roughly 10 after a late scored due to our defense being tired because our offense has shown they are incapable of sustaining drives, even against FCS schools.
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